Politics Thread

[XU_Lou]

Congress "borrowed" money from SS. They'll need to pay it back or from the general fund after they bankrupt it. do you really trust these thieves to re-instate the laws after 5 years. Poopycock.

I'm glad to hear that you recognize that politicians are liars! No doubt, both Rs and Ds have spent our hard earned money over frivolous bullshit over the last several decades. The chickens are now just coming home to roost. We need adults to come in and fix these damn problems. There will be pain - there's no way of getting around that. You can't expect to reap the benefits of over-spending all these years, and not expect to feel some of the pain when the party comes to an end.

The longer we push this off, the more pain there will be. And mostly, that pain will be felt by the younger generations. They are the ones that should be pissed off the most. Baby boomers and Gen X have robbed them blindly - and they never really knew it was happening.

[bobbiemcgee]

Baby boomers and Gen X have robbed them blindly -

We paid in what they told us to pay for 40-50 years.. Go home and punch your parents in the mouth.

[XU_Lou]

We paid in what they told us to pay for 40-50 years.. Go home and punch your parents in the mouth.

You should probably re-read what I said.....

No one - NO ONE - is going to take any benefits from old farts like you who aren't going to be around too much longer. So quit worrying about a nothingburger...

[GoMuskies]

Someone at the UN actually composed this tweet, reviewed it and somehow thought it was a good choice to hit send on it. Yikes.

https://twitter.com/UN_Women/status/...NxDRcjFTjciViA

[bobbiemcgee]

You should probably re-read what I said.....

No one - NO ONE - is going to take any benefits from old farts like you who aren't going to be around too much longer. So quit worrying about a nothingburger...

Tell it to your parents, if you actually have any.

[XU_Lou]

Tell it to your parents, if you actually have any.

How come you, Paul and your Dem buddies have no answers for the following:

Q1) Economically speaking, is there a limit to how much the Fed Gov't can spend? What is that number / or percent of GDP?

Q2) How do you intend to make SS and Medicare sustainable for generations to come?

[XU_Lou]

Commentary from Jonathan Turley, a Democrat:


"At the same time, Democrats and the J6 Committee are pursuing those who engaged in similar inflammatory rhetoric leading up to the January 6th riot. The airways are also now filled with warnings from leaders such as Hillary Clinton that the midterm elections are about to be “stolen.” Likewise, many are campaigning to ban books by figures like Justice Barrett in the name of protecting free speech.

The alarm raised over many of these GOP candidates is particularly ironic since Democrats spent millions to support the most conservative candidates in Republican primaries. Those candidates (now denounced as election deniers) prevailed in their primaries with Democratic campaign support and could now win in states like New Hampshire.

It is all perfectly Orwellian, but it is not particularly effective. With the over-the-top rhetoric and open bias in the media, the public is tuning out many in the press (which is at record lows in trust). This is becoming a type of primal scream session among friends, cathartic but confined.

President Biden was widely criticized for his Philadelphia speech, but he and others are now doubling down on this type of reckless rhetoric. The likely effect will be to incite further violence and to give license to the most unhinged in our society."

https://jonathanturley.org/2022/11/0...s/#more-196068

[Masterofreality]

The Democrats have spent over $30 million propping up MAGA candidates in the Primaries thinking they would be easy marks in the General Elections.
The MSM gave Trump billions in free media propping him up in the Primaries in 2016 thinking he’d be an easy mark.
Whoops!!!
They are too stupid to learn

“ In the lead-up to the 2016 presidential election, the national media and the Hillary Clinton campaign devised a plan to elevate Donald Trump and so-called “lunacy” over a field of up-and-coming Republican politicians. According to New York Times journalist Amy Chozick, who was embedded with Hillary Clinton’s campaign from inception to death, campaign manager Robby Mook called a meeting with an agenda of specifically asking “How do we maximize Donald Trump?” Chozick also noted how Mook “salivated when a debate came on, and Trump would start to speak. ‘Shhhhh,’ Robby said, practically pressing his nose up to the TV. ‘I’ve gahtz to get me some Trump.’”

We all know how that worked out. Yet fast-forward to the 2022 midterm elections — and Democrats are using the same strategy in several key races across the country that will tilt the balance of power. One such race in Arizona has captivated Democrats and the media, where Republican candidate Kari Lake benefited from Democratic efforts to boost the “crazy” candidate. Once again it looks like the Dems are going to come to regret it.”

With the result:

“ Once again Democrats created a verifiable rock star of the right in Kari Lake — and once again they will only have themselves to blame when she wins. It’s worth remembering this the next time Joe Biden orders his acolytes to pressure-wash the homeless people out of one of our city’s stations so he can intone that “democracy itself” is at stake. If that’s the case, bucko, then why did you guys spend so much putting all of these “election-deniers,” the “extreme MAGA element of the Republican Party,” on the ballot?”

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/dem...ers-democracy/

[Smails]

Here are a few:

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...will-rcna48330

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...sults-midterms

I don't see a single quote from a candidate in either of these articles that says what you are contending..except something from Trump (shocker). These are op-eds citing polls that they can't seem to produce. I'm not saying these quotes don't exist but you've done nothing to prove your position that the GOP is running a bunch of candidates who will refuse to accept the election results. If JD Vance is on record for saying he won't accept election results, why isn't Tim Ryan running ads showing this? Seems like it would be great campaign fodder. The only thing quoted is from a Michigan campaign aide..

[GoMuskies]

Kathy Hochul is in a very tight race in fucking New York. That's the kind of cycle this is. The Republicans are going to win the House. That's not even a question. It's just a question of whther the margin is going to be 30 seats or 40. The Senate is where the action is. Lots of very close races (NV, AZ, PA, GA, NH.....OH is not one of the close ones) that pretty much all have to go the Democrats way to keep the Senate. It's possible they hold the Senate, but it's not likely. It's not possible they keep the House.