Politics Thread

[noteggs]

In case anyone cares, you can buy insulin for under $30 at Walmart. And that is without a prescription in most states. Been that way for years. Now different MOA from today’s branded, but insulin is insulin for the most part.

Note: always check with your doctor.

[bobbiemcgee]

"False. No one is "advocating" for the elimination of Social Security or Medicare. Even Fact Checker Glenn Kessler of your favorite Pravda the Wash Post gives that claim "4 Pinocchio's". Do they want to alter it so it doesn't go bankrupt in 2032,"

Baloney, Rick Scott wants to "sunset" Social Security and Medicare laws in five years. This after he stole 1.7 billion from Medicare in his last real job and walked with 300 million. Crook.

[paulxu]

False. No one is "advocating" for the elimination of Social Security or Medicare. Even Fact Checker Glenn Kessler of your favorite Pravda the Wash Post gives that claim "4 Pinocchio's". Do they want to alter it so it doesn't go bankrupt in 2032, which it is presently on pace to do, yes. "Altering has been misspelled into "Elimination" Bull shit.

Perhaps Mike Lee is secretly a Democrat?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1588059555031678977

[Xuperman]

this country has never nor ever will be a democracy. However, both the extremist left and right are threats to the country.

Yes 'Ville, we are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. The USA "Constitution" is despised by the Left, because It so wisely blocks most everything these Progressive "Fundamentally Transform America" loons are aggressively pursuing.

That said, why is the "Threat to DEMOCRACY" narrative being the nauseating, shouting, angle by these fools?

MARXIST, SOCIALIST, ANARCHIST leaning Politicians are a complete F'ing CANCER in our Great Country.....VOTE RED!!!

[Xville]

Yes 'Ville, we are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. The USA "Constitution" is despised by the Left. It so wisely blocks most everything these Progressive "Fundamentally Transform America" loons are aggressively pursuing.

That said, why is the "Threat to DEMOCRACY" narrative being the nauseating angle by these fools?

Fear gets people elected. Let’s not act like the other side hasn’t done the same thing. Again, both sides have dirty hands.

[Strange Brew]

"False. No one is "advocating" for the elimination of Social Security or Medicare. Even Fact Checker Glenn Kessler of your favorite Pravda the Wash Post gives that claim "4 Pinocchio's". Do they want to alter it so it doesn't go bankrupt in 2032,"

Baloney, Rick Scott wants to "sunset" Social Security and Medicare laws in five years. This after he stole 1.7 billion from Medicare in his last real job and walked with 300 million. Crook.

Have you looked at how these “phase out” plans work? Not as dire as people think. But whatever.

[XU_Lou]

"False. No one is "advocating" for the elimination of Social Security or Medicare. Even Fact Checker Glenn Kessler of your favorite Pravda the Wash Post gives that claim "4 Pinocchio's". Do they want to alter it so it doesn't go bankrupt in 2032,"

Baloney, Rick Scott wants to "sunset" Social Security and Medicare laws in five years. This after he stole 1.7 billion from Medicare in his last real job and walked with 300 million. Crook.

I guess numbers - or facts - aren't your thing.....

"Yet several influential Republicans have signaled a new willingness to push for Medicare and Social Security spending cuts as part of future budget negotiations with President Biden. Their ideas include raising the age for collecting Social Security benefits to 70 from 67 and requiring many older Americans to pay higher premiums for their health coverage. The ideas are being floated as a way to narrow government spending on programs that are set to consume a growing share of the federal budget in the decades ahead."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/02/u...-medicare.html

"That section of his plan calls for sunsetting “all federal legislation” in five years, forcing Congress to act if it wants to keep federal programs. “If a law is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again,” the plan says. It also calls on “Congress to issue a report every year telling the public what they plan to do when Social Security and Medicare go bankrupt.”

“No one that I know of wants to sunset Medicare or Social Security, but what we’re doing is we don’t even talk about it,” Scott told Roberts. “Medicare goes bankrupt in four years. Social Security goes bankrupt in 12 years. I think we ought to figure out how we preserve those programs.” '

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/ex...RoCAIoQAvD_BwE

“What I want to do is make sure we live within our means and make sure we preserve those programs,” he said. “People paid into them. They believe in them.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...rees-benefits/

[XU_Lou]

Perhaps Mike Lee is secretly a Democrat?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1588059555031678977

This came after that snippet of video - what was the context of that statement anyway?

Paul and Bobbie - what do guys propose be done to ensure SS and Medicare remain viable?


"Three senators, including Utah Republican Mike Lee, say they can fix Social Security without raising taxes — and keep the entitlement financially stable for future generations to come.

Lee unveiled the proposal Wednesday — the same day President Barack Obama revealed his deficit-reduction plan to Congress — along with Sens. Rand Paul, R-Ky., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

"We decided that we wanted to make Social Security solvent in perpetuity, be able to demonstrate its solvency over a 75-year period," Lee said.

This is the first year in which Social Security is paying more in benefits than it is bringing in. The senators say if nothing is done now, by 2037 the government would have to raise FICA taxes by a third or cut benefits by 25 percent.

The plan would not affect benefits of those people already retired and those people over the age of 56.

Their proposal would gradually raise the retirement age from 67 to 70 by 2032.

"If you talk to young people in America — they've already accepted this," Paul said. "I tell people 'the knowledge has already been discounted. Young people know the age will have to go up gradually.' "

That means someone born in 1970 will have to wait until they are 70 to retire.

The plan also calls for a reduction of benefits for wealthier Americans. They are proposing a "means test" for Social Security benefits.

The plan would not affect those making $43,000 a year or less during their worklife. Graham said wealthy Americans would see their monthly benefits reduced by nearly $300 by 2030.

"We are asking upper-income Americans to forgo future benefits," Graham said, "rather than raising their taxes."

https://www.deseret.com/2011/4/14/20...-raising-taxes

[bobbiemcgee]

I guess numbers - or facts - aren't your thing.....

"Yet several influential Republicans have signaled a new willingness to push for Medicare and Social Security spending cuts as part of future budget negotiations with President Biden. Their ideas include raising the age for collecting Social Security benefits to 70 from 67 and requiring many older Americans to pay higher premiums for their health coverage. The ideas are being floated as a way to narrow government spending on programs that are set to consume a growing share of the federal budget in the decades ahead."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/02/u...-medicare.html

"That section of his plan calls for sunsetting “all federal legislation” in five years, forcing Congress to act if it wants to keep federal programs. “If a law is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again,” the plan says. It also calls on “Congress to issue a report every year telling the public what they plan to do when Social Security and Medicare go bankrupt.”

“No one that I know of wants to sunset Medicare or Social Security, but what we’re doing is we don’t even talk about it,” Scott told Roberts. “Medicare goes bankrupt in four years. Social Security goes bankrupt in 12 years. I think we ought to figure out how we preserve those programs.” '

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/ex...RoCAIoQAvD_BwE

“What I want to do is make sure we live within our means and make sure we preserve those programs,” he said. “People paid into them. They believe in them.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...rees-benefits/

Congress "borrowed" money from SS. They'll need to pay it back or from the general fund after they bankrupt it. do you really trust these thieves to re-instate the laws after 5 years. Poopycock.

[Strange Brew]

Congress "borrowed" money from SS. They'll need to pay it back or from the general fund after they bankrupt it. do you really trust these thieves to re-instate the laws after 5 years. Poopycock.

No I don’t. That’s why I’d like to not keep being obligated to send them my money. :)