Politics Thread

[Xuperman]

XUBREW,
You seem to be informed. Could you post ANY INFO about what 15 million Biden illegals have been costing American taxpayers?

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[paulxu]

It seems the new mark of fealty to the Republican candidate is to NOT agree he lost the 2020 election when asked.

Guess that's to protect a chance for a possible job if he wins, but boy is that weak; real lack of backbone to face reality.

[xubrew]

XUBREW,
You seem to be informed. Could you post ANY INFO about what 15 million Biden illegals have been costing American taxpayers?

....Final Jeopardy music....

You want an actual dollar amount?? I have no idea. This is not a particular topic that I consider myself to be informed on. I'm under the impression that the 15 million number is about right, and prior to this administration it was around 10-12 million. While many illegal immigrants do work and do pay taxes, it still doesn't offset the overall cost. Other than that it's not something that's really been a huge red flag for me. I'm not discounting the importance of it. I'm just saying that for me personally it's not what gives me heartburn. I've got too much heartburn with other issues.

[xubrew]

This post is 100% correct.

This 8 year hate campaign has become the most vicious attack on any POTUS in the history of our Country.

TDS is a clinical rabid mental illness. This goes so far beyond his abhorrent personality and "mean tweets". Half the Country can not stand the sight of him....literally lose it on the sound of his voice. Only Hillary Clinton comes close in that level of disgust.

Historians will document his Presidency as a positive 4 years. The overwhelming dedication from all Leftist forces to destroy him, will also be well documented.

He wasn’t talking about trump.

I was really talking about EVERYONE.

People who yell for a speaker on campus that you had never heard of 24 hours ago be cancelled, fired, and sent home are part of the problem. Just don't go to the presentation.

People who flip through their guides and streaming services looking for old episodes of the Dukes of Hazzard so the can yell about how it shouldn't be on the air anymore are part of the problem. Just don't watch it. Willie Nelson played Uncle Jessie in the movie. I'm sure there are people that want him cancelled. They're part of the problem.

People who watched the Olympics who never really cared about it before, but wanted to see something that they could to yell about are part of the problem. I know several people who, after the opening ceremonies, went on for pages and pages on Facebook about how it was a disgrace and how they were boycotting watching the games. That's both funny and sad. It's funny because them boycotting the Olympics is sort of like me boycotting Bed Bath and Beyond. They weren't going to watch anyway. But, it's sad because it shows just how many people want something to yell about.

Some day soon someone will want to cancel The Naked Gun. The scene where he sings the National Anthem is just too much for them to handle. Nevermind that up until now it's been funny as hell. These people are part of the problem.

Who cares if Colin Kaepernick wants to kneel?? Who REALLY cares?? It's a symbolic protest. So what?? He's not hurting anything. As angry as so many people were, I bet very few of them had ever visited a VA Hospital, and would scream bloody murder if their taxes did go up to provide better benefits and better pay for the armed forces (which they should, but that's a different debate). And, up until 2009 (I think) football teams were never on the field for the National Anthem anyway.

If you're complaining about how a library you've not been to for the last ten years has a book you don't like and therefore needs to be shut down forever, you're part of the problem.

People who refuse to acknowledge that the cops that killed George Floyd did anything wrong are part of the problem.

People who refuse to acknowledge that the officers who killed George Floyd were dealt with very severely and charged with murder are also part of the problem. Their actions were strongly condemned by virtually every law enforcement organization in the country. It's not like anyone covered it up, or endorsed it, or said it was okay.

Yes, I'm talking a lot about Trump, but not just him. I'm talking about EVERYONE. And, while I'm not a fan of Trump, and I think he and his supporters certainly partake in this, I think the Left is worse about this kind of stuff. Why does everyone want to be triggered?? They want to be triggered so badly that they'll even latch on to something that's clearly made up and go off the rails over it.

[Xville]

I was really talking about EVERYONE.

People who yell for a speaker on campus that you had never heard of 24 hours ago be cancelled, fired, and sent home are part of the problem. Just don't go to the presentation.

People who flip through their guides and streaming services looking for old episodes of the Dukes of Hazzard so the can yell about how it shouldn't be on the air anymore are part of the problem. Just don't watch it. Willie Nelson played Uncle Jessie in the movie. I'm sure there are people that want him cancelled. They're part of the problem.

People who watched the Olympics who never really cared about it before, but wanted to see something that they could to yell about are part of the problem. I know several people who, after the opening ceremonies, went on for pages and pages on Facebook about how it was a disgrace and how they were boycotting watching the games. That's both funny and sad. It's funny because them boycotting the Olympics is sort of like me boycotting Bed Bath and Beyond. They weren't going to watch anyway. But, it's sad because it shows just how many people want something to yell about.

Some day soon someone will want to cancel The Naked Gun. The scene where he sings the National Anthem is just too much for them to handle. Nevermind that up until now it's been funny as hell. These people are part of the problem.

Who cares if Colin Kaepernick wants to kneel?? Who REALLY cares?? It's a symbolic protest. So what?? He's not hurting anything. As angry as so many people were, I bet very few of them had ever visited a VA Hospital, and would scream bloody murder if their taxes did go up to provide better benefits and better pay for the armed forces (which they should, but that's a different debate). And, up until 2009 (I think) football teams were never on the field for the National Anthem anyway.

If you're complaining about how a library you've not been to for the last ten years has a book you don't like and therefore needs to be shut down forever, you're part of the problem.

People who refuse to acknowledge that the cops that killed George Floyd did anything wrong are part of the problem.

People who refuse to acknowledge that the officers who killed George Floyd were dealt with very severely and charged with murder are also part of the problem. Their actions were strongly condemned by virtually every law enforcement organization in the country. It's not like anyone covered it up, or endorsed it, or said it was okay.

Yes, I'm talking a lot about Trump, but not just him. I'm talking about EVERYONE. And, while I'm not a fan of Trump, and I think he and his supporters certainly partake in this, I think the Left is worse about this kind of stuff. Why does everyone want to be triggered?? They want to be triggered so badly that they'll even latch on to something that's clearly made up and go off the rails over it.

I think the greatest manipulation of society is that politicians have been able to convince a significant amount of people that they care about them, and that their side is the "right" side while the other is basically satan's disciples.

[xubrew]

I think the greatest manipulation of society is that politicians have been able to convince a significant amount of people that they care about them, and that their side is the "right" side while the other is basically satan's disciples.

I don't disagree.

Having said that, I can also completely understand one side looking at the other and seeing that they want to just not have law enforcement anymore, and saying that Hamas needs our support, and that people need to be completely cancelled because of some picture that was taken more than a quarter-century ago, and thinking "Wow, these people are fucking nuts!"

Also having said that, when one side looks at the other and sees them telling all these lies about how they actually won the election, and that people's pets are being eaten (which is a soundbyte that will go down in history), and all this other stuff, they're gonna also think "Wow, these people are fucking nuts!"

[xuwillie]

Oh wow! I didn't realize you were getting your information from independent accounts on X.com. That's clearly the most reliable source of information out there...

I have family that lives in western North Carolina. The storm was pretty alarming, but yes. I'm CERTAIN FEMA is not out of money, and that help is being provided, and that authorities are not setting up a blockade to keep supplies out.

https://governor.nc.gov/news/press-r...north-carolina

But here lies the problem when MSM can't be trusted anymore and why the decisiveness continues to grow. Are you actually saying MSM is reliable?

[xubrew]

But here lies the problem when MSM can't be trusted anymore and why the decisiveness continues to grow. Are you actually saying MSM is reliable?

No.

And when I make citations I try to avoid MSM altogether, and if I do use it I want to make sure it's something that holds up.

But I do find MSM to be more reliable than X.com. I just did a search on X and found a story claiming the CIA is covering up alien abductions. So, while MSM news outlets are owned by entertainment groups, and they produce the news in the same ways and with the same objectives as they produce their other forms of entertainment, and while I agree that's a HUGE problem, they aren't to the point of where they're running stories about the CIA covering up alien abductions and trying to pass that off as factual.

[xuwillie]

No.

And when I make citations I try to avoid MSM altogether, and if I do use it I want to make sure it's something that holds up.

But I do find MSM to be more reliable than X.com. I just did a search on X and found a story claiming the CIA is covering up alien abductions. So, while MSM news outlets are owned by entertainment groups, and they produce the news in the same ways and with the same objectives as they produce their other forms of entertainment, and while I agree that's a HUGE problem, they aren't to the point of where they're running stories about the CIA covering up alien abductions and trying to pass that off as factual.

MSM has a lot of blame on how everyone views the other side. Just amazing to me people still watch and believe the rhetoric

[Xville]

MSM has a lot of blame on how everyone views the other side. Just amazing to me people still watch and believe the rhetoric

I think msm, and social media are the culprits of what has happened to politics and overall society in the last 15 or so years. News was almost always slanted, but not to this extent. Social media just allows for anyone to say anything, and a pretty solid base of people will believe it.