Politics Thread

[Xville]

All of this could have been avoided had the RNC not allowed Trump to be in the primaries. They are the ones who effed this up. Haley's prophecy will most likely prove to be correct. "Whichever party retires their 80 year old candidate first, will win."

Don't agree with Haley on everything but she could have been the nominee and the first female president. Instead its probably going to be Kamala. Yikes.

[GoMuskies]

How were the Republicans going to not let him run in the primaries? The Republican Party is held hostage by....a significant majority of its members. Not my choice, for sure, but that's how it really should work. Political party operatives shouldn't pick the candidates for the party's members (which party might have done that, I wonder....).

[GoMuskies]

Kinda sorta.... Trump gave an average of 4 solo interviews to various news sources (including a town hall hosted by CNN of all networks) during his 2 campaign cycles. Both of them on top of the joint/ticket interviews they did with their running mates. I don't think that being accessible to the media during an election run up is a hill you want to die on but my all means, let's discuss.

Donald Trump went to the National Association of Black Journalists. Imagine Kamala going to a similarly hostile envrionment. I guess we'll have to imagine it, because she'd never do it.

[Xville]

How were the Republicans going to not let him run in the primaries? The Republican Party is held hostage by....a significant majority of its members. Not my choice, for sure, but that's how it really should work. Political party operatives shouldn't pick the candidates for the party's members (which party might have done that, I wonder....).

The rnc could have buried him a long time ago, they chose not to. Why? Because the majority members that aren’t insane, are wimps, and the vocal minority as you stated control the party right now. I think secondly is that the rnc thought trump was politically dead about a year and a half ago, and they just let him run because the idiot American public couldn’t possibly vote him in again. Jokes on them, or all of us I guess.

I mean really political operatives pick candidates for both parties for the most part. Donors are told who to donate to, suggested candidates are told if they can actually run or not etc. I know there’s a primary process but it’s a little bit of an illusion.

[GoMuskies]

I don't think it's a "vocal minority". Trump crushed his Republican opposition. It's not like he squeaked through the primary.

If the RNC wouldn't have let Trump run, he would have run as an independent and completely destroyed them. He'd have had no chance to win the general election, of course, but Biden would have stayed in the race and won about 45 states, Trump would have won 4, and the Republican would have won Utah.

[Xville]

I don't think it's a "vocal minority". Trump crushed his Republican opposition. It's not like he squeaked through the primary.

If the RNC wouldn't have let Trump run, he would have run as an independent and completely destroyed them. He'd have had no chance to win the general election, of course, but Biden would have stayed in the race and won about 45 states, Trump would have won 4, and the Republican would have won Utah.

Oh I meant the vocal minority of the republicans, not the primary voters who are idiots

[Xville]

I don't think it's a "vocal minority". Trump crushed his Republican opposition. It's not like he squeaked through the primary.

If the RNC wouldn't have let Trump run, he would have run as an independent and completely destroyed them. He'd have had no chance to win the general election, of course, but Biden would have stayed in the race and won about 45 states, Trump would have won 4, and the Republican would have won Utah.

IMO Haley probably wins the primary and all republicans would have ended up backing her, because she would have won in a landslide in the general.

I don’t think trump would have run as an independent, maybe I’m wrong though

[GoMuskies]

I don’t think trump would have run as an independent, maybe I’m wrong though

If the Republicans had banned him from the primary, I'm almost certain he'd have done one of two things: (i) run as an inpendent; or (ii) endorse Joe Biden. He would have been absolutely hell-bent on preventing any Republican from winning if he had been "wronged" like that. He probably would have cost Republicans the House and Senate, too.

[xuwillie]

I don't think it's a "vocal minority". Trump crushed his Republican opposition. It's not like he squeaked through the primary.

If the RNC wouldn't have let Trump run, he would have run as an independent and completely destroyed them. He'd have had no chance to win the general election, of course, but Biden would have stayed in the race and won about 45 states, Trump would have won 4, and the Republican would have won Utah.

This. Trump wouldn’t just walk away if he lost to Haley, he would have screwed over the Republican Parry and run as an independent. They really had no other choice but to let him do his thing

[paulxu]

I don't think today's Republican "party" is just that, in the most common use of that term.
When you have family members running the organization...it's become a popular personality cult.
Maybe nothing wrong with that, but it's not a "party."