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    I am ok with playing dayton in an exhibtion game for a good cause.

    But I hate everything about their program. I hate their dump of an arena, their window licking fans, the po-dunk town they play in, I mean every single fucking thing. EVERYTHING.

    I don't fear playing them, I merely don't care to. You will never sell me on the benefits of playing dayton and I am surprised we agreed to this scrimmage.

    It's been great not sharing the same air as dayton fans the past decade or so since we played them twice a year.

    I hope their program withers up and dies a slow painful, heartbreaking death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuts4xu View Post
    I am ok with playing dayton in an exhibtion game for a good cause.

    But I hate everything about their program. I hate their dump of an arena, their window licking fans, the po-dunk town they play in, I mean every single fucking thing. EVERYTHING.

    I don't fear playing them, I merely don't care to. You will never sell me on the benefits of playing dayton and I am surprised we agreed to this scrimmage.

    It's been great not sharing the same air as dayton fans the past decade or so since we played them twice a year.

    I hope their program withers up and dies a slow painful, heartbreaking death.
    See, this is GREAT stuff!! Running toward the hate creates MUCH better theater than running away from it!!

    I think this is something college basketball needs more of. Too many teams run away from the hate. It would be better, and more exciting, and more engaging to more people if teams ran toward the hate instead!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xubrew View Post
    To the diehard and serious fans it probably isn't sexy at all.

    To the casual fans/non-fans-other-than-rivalries-showcases-and-NCAAs, it was and it would be again.

    It's probably what a song like Enter Sandman is to Metallica. The diehard fans that have every import and bootleg and go to 20 shows a year are sick of it and kind of wish they wouldn't play it anymore. They want to hear the deep tracks and early stuff more than the radio hits. To the other people that don't know the band that well, they want to hear it. That may be one of the few songs they actually know and really like. So, who are you playing for?? If you want to grow your fan base and engage as many people as you can, play UD. If you feel you've got enough diehard fans to where those are the only ones you really need to worry about pleasing (which both X and Metallica probably do), then don't.

    You can't say that playing Dayton wouldn't interest more people than just about anyone else X could play out of conference. It would. it may not interest YOU. It may not interest most of the people here. But it would create more buzz among the non-diehards than just about any other game they could regularly play. That in and of itself isn't necessarily a reason to play it, but let's at least acknowledge that reality.
    Sorry. I just don’t. And I believe you are overstating the number of casual fans that would moth their way to this toxic flame.

    They are where they should be: in mid-major hell with the privilege of playing LossSalle and Fordham.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xubrew View Post
    Do YOU honestly believe these are teams Xavier could REGULARLY play on equal terms? And, if this were an actual option, then why isn't it already happening?
    Because they think of us the same way I think of Dayton.
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    Because they think of us the same way I think of Dayton.
    I don't think Duke or Kentucky really think of Xavier in any way. They don't think of us at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xubrew View Post
    I don't think Duke or Kentucky really think of Xavier in any way. They don't think of us at all.
    OK, Draper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xudash View Post
    Sorry. I just don’t. And I believe you are overstating the number of casual fans that would moth their way to this toxic flame.

    They are where they should be: in mid-major hell with the privilege of playing LossSalle and Fordham.
    Agree here.

    Who is this casual fan that all of a sudden is going to get all amped up to go watch Dayton, and really what’s that do for Xavier? There’s no need for this game. Cintas sells out almost every game, we are in a big boy conference. We already have a rivalry game.

    Let Dayton lie in their sewage

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    OK, Draper.
    I live deep within Big Blue country. When I tell people I went to Xavier, they seem to kind of know who that is and may have seen a game at some point over the last ten years or so. Many UK fans have the remarkable ability to recall, in detail, seemingly random games from as far back as the 1980s. But Xavier hasn't played them since 1968. They really don't think about us.
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    I'm a casual fan when we play Our Lady of Perpetual Sorrows, and I'd be more likely to watch us play Dayton. But we've got to play the occasional patsy.

    Sure, we sell out, but there are a number of games where most people in the building aren't really that interested in the product, because it's boring. None of this is to endorse a Dayton home and home, but 'brew's not wrong that replacing some garbage opponent that everyone knows we're going to thrash with Dayton would be a lot more interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xubrew View Post
    I don't think Duke or Kentucky really think of Xavier in any way. They don't think of us at all.
    I don't think about Dayton at all, unless someone starts a thread about some charity game.

    We should focus on getting OSU, KY and Ind; even if just at their house. Close enough for season tx holders to make the trip.
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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