Politics Thread

[paulxu]

Much the same way as 2016 when Muslims were the fear factor driving the GOP's outreach for voters, this year the fear factor is immigration at the southern border.

It's all about ginning up votes, not reasonable approaches to try and handle a very difficult situation.
Compounded now by adding funding for Ukraine and Israel.

The R's got what they wanted in the legislation, but then Trump decided for them that it was better to preserve the issue for November.
Meanwhile, Ukraine and Israel suffer. And the Border Patrol doesn't get the bill they endorsed.

I'm pretty sure the WSJ isn't liberal, and the headline of their editorial board's article says it all:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/senate-...sylum-bc2f9543

[Xville]

Let's also stop making stuff up like "Trump shut down and secured the border." It's factually false.

https://www.cato.org/blog/trumps-bor...migrants-sneak

[Smails]

We are officially less than 9 months from election day, by the way.

That's great it starts with an earthquake..birds and snakes and airplanes...

[xubrew]

Trump is going to get convicted, and then he will win the election. The rest of the world will conclude that we have taken reality TV entirely too far.

[GoMuskies]

Trump is going to get convicted, and then he will win the election. The rest of the world will conclude that we have taken reality TV entirely too far.

Well, at least we get a Season 4 of Prison Break if that happens.

[STL_XUfan]

Well, at least we get a Season 4 of Prison Break if that happens.

They actually released a Season 4 and 5, plus a movie. They are bad, but they are out there if you need to kill time between now and the election.

[X-band '01]

Trump is going to get convicted, and then he will win the election. The rest of the world will conclude that we have taken reality TV entirely too far.

The major thing that happened today was the DC Court of Appeals flatly telling Trump that he can be prosecuted for crimes committed while he was President. I don't know how many more appeals he'll be able to squeeze out of this, especially if the Supreme Court decides not to step in. However, the DC court case is still paused while he tries to run out the clock on further appeals.

[X-band '01]

Edit that. The House failed to impeach Mayorkas. They couldn't even be bothered to hold a vote when their members were actually present.

Anyone else they should try impeaching next?

[xuphan]

The major thing that happened today was the DC Court of Appeals flatly telling Trump that he can be prosecuted for crimes committed while he was President. I don't know how many more appeals he'll be able to squeeze out of this, especially if the Supreme Court decides not to step in. However, the DC court case is still paused while he tries to run out the clock on further appeals.

Poor Trump. Trouble just seems to follow that guy everywhere he goes. Why won’t the libs just leave him alone. He’s innocent I tell ya. Poor guy has to ask for total immunity so the lefties will leave him alone. Please consider making a campaign donation to MAGA so Trump can pay off all these legal debts that continue to build up.

[paulxu]

So, Dems want an aid package for Ukraine and Israel.
Repubs say no aid package without border issues addressed.
McConnell tasks Lankford to get that done.
Lankford gets Dems to make all kinds of concessions to get a deal, getting what the Repubs want.
Dems agree so they can move forward.
Border Patrol supports.
Trump tells House to turn it down.
McConnell says it needs to pass. Trump calls McConnell.
McConnell changes his mind (within the space of an hour or so). Deal dies.
House trys to impeach Mayorkas (strange since the Repubs wanted changes and funding that would have helped him...until Trump intervened.)
House fails on impeachment vote. First one to fail since the 1860's.
Now Senate may try to get original Dem bill back to the table to fund Ukraine and Israel.

It's a circus. The Repubs are apparently incapable of governing.