Politics Thread

xuwillie · 03-28-2023, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Masterofreality

It sure is funny how when a legit Nazi ultra right winger commits a shooting, the narrative is all about his “radicalized beliefs”.
When an ultra left wing Transphobic nut who has been militarized by their insane group commits a shooting it’s all about “guns”, and never their crazy beliefs.
The Nashville shooting was a hate crime vs Christians, their beliefs, and the Trans community now wanting their “Day of Vengeance” . They’ve been promoting it all over social media.
Look, I don’t own guns and are not a fan of them, but the narrative to not place the blame where it actually lies is disgusting.
Remember the Waukesha parade where, according to the media a “Car” plowed into people and killed them? Total down play of the hate crime committed by a guy of color vs whites.
Media is trash

Guns and crazy people aren’t going away. You might say it’s just going to get worse with all the hate being spewed by the media.

Xville · 03-28-2023, 10:29 AM

The blame goes to our terrible mental health system and to the family unit that turns their blind eye. It’s now slowly coming out that this person had some mental health/suicide struggles/ shocking. Guns are also part of the issue, I’m not pro-gun or anti-gun but to have some common sense legislation around them would be nice.

All in all, I’m sick of this. All of it needs to be changed from our mental health services to guns to the idiots who are parents of these people. Politicians for once need to get together, stop pointing fingers and effing fix it.

xuphan · 03-28-2023, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Xville

The blame goes to our terrible mental health system and to the family unit that turns their blind eye. It’s now slowly coming out that this person had some mental health/suicide struggles/ shocking. Guns are also part of the issue, I’m not pro-gun or anti-gun but to have some common sense legislation around them would be nice.

All in all, I’m sick of this. All of it needs to be changed from our mental health services to guns to the idiots who are parents of these people. Politicians for once need to get together, stop pointing fingers and effing fix it.

Do you really think Politicians are going to do anything about it. They have had countless parents with dead kids talk to them and nothing gets done. Get use to these shootings because they are not going away. Signed by the Democrats and Republicans.

**Masterofreality** · 03-28-2023, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by xuwillie

Guns and crazy people aren’t going away. You might say it’s just going to get worse with all the hate being spewed by the media.

The media definitely feeds it. They like throwing Molotov Cocktails into the fray then walk away while loving to “report” on the collateral damage.

**Masterofreality** · 03-28-2023, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by xuphan

Do you really think Politicians are going to do anything about it. They have had countless parents with dead kids talk to them and nothing gets done. Get use to these shootings because they are not going away. Signed by the Democrats and Republicans.

Just think of how many Billions this country could spend on “Mental Health” issues if the US would stop wasting Billions propping up and pushing “Green Energy” and environmental Bullshit. The “Inflation Reduction Act” wasn’t that at all. It was billions on the green energy crap.
Those monies would have been better served as the “Mental Health Enhancement Act”. But Joe Biden’s lunacy and his totally misplaced priorities rule. He can still falsely claim “gun control” tho. How’s that work in Chicago & California Joe?

STL_XUfan · 03-28-2023, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Just think of how many Billions this country could spend on “Mental Health” issues if the US would stop wasting Billions propping up and pushing “Green Energy” and environmental Bullshit. The “Inflation Reduction Act” wasn’t that at all. It was billions on the green energy crap.
Those monies would have been better served as the “Mental Health Enhancement Act”. But Joe Biden’s lunacy and his totally misplaced priorities rule. He can still falsely claim “gun control” tho. How’s that work in Chicago & California Joe?

This is the biggest strawman argument I have ever seen. We cannot get states to accept federal grant money to expand Medicaid, and you think there is an appetite on the right side to spend significant money on taking care of mental health. If there is, I am sure you will have no issue gathering up the votes on the left to get it passed.

As to the "guns and crazy people" aren't going away comment, our legislatures could certainly do something to greatly restrict the two from mixing. Instead, we have strapped on our idiot helmets and went full on the other way with states passing dumb ass shit like constitutional carry. We don't live in the wild west, you have no reason to carry your gun with you. Doing so will only ever escalate a situation not deescalate it. But by all means, look like Johnny bad ass strapped down with your AR15 getting a cup of coffee.

None of this matters. Nothing will change. Kids will continue to die. This is just our reality and at this point I see no hope in it ever changing.

**paulxu** · 03-28-2023, 11:52 AM

California gun deaths per 100,000 residents: 8.5
Ohio gun deaths per 100,000 residents: 15.2
Tennessee gun deaths per 100,000 residents: 21.3

There are 13 states where the death rate exceeds 20/100,000.
All but one of them voted Republican in the last presidential election...in case there is actual correlation.

**Strange Brew** · 03-28-2023, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by paulxu

California gun deaths per 100,000 residents: 8.5
Ohio gun deaths per 100,000 residents: 15.2
Tennessee gun deaths per 100,000 residents: 21.3

There are 13 states where the death rate exceeds 20/100,000.
All but one of them voted Republican in the last presidential election...in case there is actual correlation.

How many are suicides?

Stats…