Politics Thread

[Strange Brew]

Because so many here seem to be caught up in the Trump nonsense of denying the results of the election.
Multiple lawsuits with no merit. Attorneys being sanctioned for the stunts. Fake electors and Jewish space lasers.

About your questions; although worth discussing, I wonder if that's the deflection everyone talks about.
The spending bill, as noted in the WSJ, ramps up the chance of a financial crisis with the increase to the national debt.
There are areas to cut, but many of them have become sacred cows.
As to the Patriot systems, it's indicated 6+ months of training are needed to operate. So it should be sometime until they are deployed.
It would be good if a political resolution to the war could be achieved in a shorter time.

The Trump stuff and Lake's case are different. You do realize that, correct?

[paulxu]

The Trump stuff and Lake's case are different. You do realize that, correct?

How so?

[STL_XUfan]

That's what I was alluding to. If they are operated by Americans after the "show of unity" this week I'm concerned it may do just that.

Reports are that Ukrainians will be trained in a third Country on the systems before they are deployed. I cannot imagine an active duty American operating the system within Ukraine.

So to the extent that it can limit Russia's capabilities further I am all for it. I would much rather continue to fund the Ukrainians to weaken our adversary and defend their homeland than the other two possibilities: All out war or the complete occupation of Ukraine by Russia.

[Masterofreality]

You may have a point. I wish it wasn't in the news everyday with all the stuff coming out that went on.
I'd like it go away.
When over 2 years later, people are still claiming the election was stolen, it just won't seem to die.

There truly is NOBODY on this board that gives a crap over this or those “people”. Nobody other than you and you won’t shut up about it, or Trump, who has been out of the Office for two years. It”won’t die” because it is omnipresent in your mind. Nobody else says anything about it. You also watch the wrong “news” Whose viewership depends on Trump.
Today in the Omnibus Bill the congress addressed issues that will prevent what happened 2 years ago.
Will you shut up about this “Threat to Democracy” now and address the real threats to democracy-like Government agencies and the White House trying to control Social Media outlets and quashing legitimate well reported stories that go against their preferred narrative? Or Threats to Democracy like a refusal to control the Southern Border?
Time to shut up and move to 2023 issues, Sir.

[Strange Brew]

Reports are that Ukrainians will be trained in a third Country on the systems before they are deployed. I cannot imagine an active duty American operating the system within Ukraine.

So to the extent that it can limit Russia's capabilities further I am all for it. I would much rather continue to fund the Ukrainians to weaken our adversary and defend their homeland than the other two possibilities: All out war or the complete occupation of Ukraine by Russia.

Hope that’s the case.

If you want to weaken Russia, reverse Biden’s energy policy. More money to US producers (and more tax cash money) and less money in aid to Ukraine.

[Strange Brew]

How so?

I’m really not sure if if you’re really this dense or you’re just trolling.

[paulxu]

MOR, this is a politics thread, and open for comment on political news of the day.
Absent a mod telling me I've violated a rule, I'll continue to make comments.
Why they bother you so much, personally, I really don't know. I hope you can get over that.
I don't attack you when you bring up your dislike for Biden or his policies. Maybe you're sore that the red wave didn't materialize.
Maybe just put me on ignore and that will help.

[paulxu]

I’m really not sure if if you’re really this dense or you’re just trolling.

Lake and Trump continue, in the latter case 2 years later, pushing stolen election nonsense and lies. That's the similarity.
Even Hannity, under oath, had to admit that he didn't believe them. But he kept pushing them
And some people believe it, still, to the detriment of our country,

[Masterofreality]

MOR, this is a politics thread, and open for comment on political news of the day.
Absent a mod telling me I've violated a rule, I'll continue to make comments.
Why they bother you so much, personally, I really don't know. I hope you can get over that.
I don't attack you when you bring up your dislike for Biden or his policies. Maybe you're sore that the red wave didn't materialize.
Maybe just put me on ignore and that will help.

I actually find your obsession hilarious. Hilarious like a pyromaniac who knows setting fires is bad but can’t help himself.
Why this obsession? Can it be that you and your Dem friends are so scared that the American people may freely choose Trump as President again after they’ve seen the garbage dump that Biden & the Dems have created? Are you and the Dems so scared that he might come back into office and restore solid policies that this administration screwed up so badly? I mean, DURING Trumps presidency they tried to destroy and undermine him with 2 bullshit impeachments based upon lies like that Steele Dossier. Ya gotta stop living in fear Paul. The country is Ok. It’s still surviving Biden’s lousy group isn’t it?
All you can do is find ways to attack the side you don’t like in “civil” ways, but we all know what you are doing- like when you go after Elon Musk for, whatever.
The “news of the day” as you call it, comes from biased hacks like MSNBC, focuses on the guy who lives rent free in your head-Trump- and is generated by more hacks on that ludicrous Jan 6 “Committee”, the alleged Republicans of which have been voted out of office just like your obsession Trump.
And I go after Biden because there is plenty to go after him about. We hardly ever seem to hear too much Defense from you over him, his constant lies, Kamala’s incompetence surrounding her “Border Czar” job, lying Adam Schiff, economy mismanagement, Afghanistan mismanagement, etc.
Bottom line. Only you constantly try to throw a Molotov cocktail about a guy you alone obsess about. No one else cares and if you’d shut up about it it would be dead on here. It’s ponderous and counterproductive. Just stop.

By the way. The Red Wave took over the House, the Arizona Senator just left your party and Manchin may too over your side’s craziness.
Your side elected a brain dead guy who can’t put a full sentence together. Congrats on that I guess!

[paulxu]

Glad to be here to provide you comedic relief.
I watch all the different news channels, not just NBC. So I watched Hannity parrot the lies, until he went under oath.
Wonder if they will end up paying Dominion?

https://thehill.com/homenews/3785645...-fraud-claims/