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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    You said the entire Democratic Party.
    Yes, because the Democratic Party is highly skilled at maintaining a unbreakable party narrative that is very effectively parroted by the smothering MSM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caf View Post
    You are of course cherry picking points which no moderately reasonable person would assert let alone defend.

    Let me try:

    There is no reasonable debate over NO RESTRICTIONS for weapons.

    There is no reasonable debate over NO CONVICTIONS for unnecessary police killings.

    There is no reasonable debate over NO HEALTHCARE for 30 million Americans.

    There is no reasonable debate over ENDLESS WAR in the Middle East.

    There is no reasonable debate for ending ALL IMMIGRATION when there's a need for cheap labor.

    There is no reasonable debate over OVERTURNING ALL VOTES for 80 million Americans.

    Anybody want to defend these arguments they didn't make?
    Ok,
    Now that is a fantastic Post!

    Thanks for helping to adjust some political compass.

    Everything said feels left leaning, but very clever. However, you never attempted to debate my points, only deflected by making an opposing list of questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuperman View Post
    Ok,
    Now that is a fantastic Post!

    Thanks for helping to adjust some political compass.

    Everything said feels left leaning, but very clever. However, you never attempted to debate my points, only deflected by making an opposing list of questions.
    The first sentence is the explanation for why there is no attempt at debating your points. That’s the whole point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuperman View Post
    Yes, because the Democratic Party is highly skilled at maintaining a unbreakable party narrative that is very effectively parroted by the smothering MSM.
    If you feel the entire Democratic Party is that and believes in all the points you listed, then I think we are done here. Have a good night

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caf View Post
    You are of course cherry picking points which no moderately reasonable person would assert let alone defend.

    Let me try:

    There is no reasonable debate over NO RESTRICTIONS for weapons.

    There is no reasonable debate over NO CONVICTIONS for unnecessary police killings.

    There is no reasonable debate over NO HEALTHCARE for 30 million Americans.

    There is no reasonable debate over ENDLESS WAR in the Middle East.

    There is no reasonable debate for ending ALL IMMIGRATION when there's a need for cheap labor.

    There is no reasonable debate over OVERTURNING ALL VOTES for 80 million Americans.

    Anybody want to defend these arguments they didn't make?
    Ok,
    Now that is a fantastic Post!

    Thanks for helping to adjust some political compass.

    Everything said feels left leaning, but very clever. However, you never attempted to debate my points, only deflected by making an opposing list of questions, but I am eager to engage.

    Full background check and 7 day waiting period for ALL 1st time gun purchasers. 21 year old requirement reasonable for general public. National gun owner ID, scanned with serial numbers for all new purchases.

    Police killings are going to happen when dealing with hardcore criminals. The folks in Blue are not playing pussy foot.

    Medicaid already covers anyone that can't afford it.

    Nation building with Western values has never worked.

    Rock solid SECURE BOARDER. Only LEGAL entry. No Human trafficking/Fentanyl.

    Not ENOUGH evidence to dispute the 2020 election.

    Moderate enough?
    Last edited by Xuperman; 09-06-2022 at 10:09 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    You said the entire Democratic Party.
    Because they are in COMPLETE LOCK STEP....... SIMPATICO.

    And the complicit MSM gets all the memos. They 24/7 parrot the EXACT same talking points. How much more obvious can it be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuperman View Post
    Because they are in COMPLETE LOCK STEP....... SIMPATICO.

    And the complicit MSM gets all the memos. They 24/7 parrot the EXACT same talking points. How much more obvious can it be?
    You sure you're talking about the Democrats?? In complete lock step??!! The DEMOCRATS??

    The Democrats have been the most divided and dysfunctional group that I have ever seen. They make the Pac 12 seem like they've got their shit together and are completely united with one another. The Dems constantly attack each other. They will try and "cancel" one of their own at the drop of a hat. A lot of Democrats actually cannot stand the extreme left. They're just kind of afraid to say anything because they know if they do that the Crazy is gonna Crazy.

    You say you want to debate these issues and that the left leaning people on this site refuse to do it. The reason for that is the left leaning people on this site agree with almost none of those points, or at the very least do not agree with them to the extreme extent that the Crazy Left takes them. It's not that they're afraid to debate you. It's that they don't agree with any of those points in the first place. They ARE NOT in lock-step. If anything, the Crazy Left is a constant attempt to 'Out-Crazy-Left' everyone else. No one wants to debate the merits of that. There aren't any.

    The thing is, I think the 'Crazy Right' is kind of starting to look the same way on the other side of the mirror. That's what scares me. The Right of about 15 years ago would have told Trump to go fuck himself.
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    On an unrelated note, if you donated to Bannon's build the wall scam...maybe you can get some of your money back.
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuperman View Post
    Everything said feels left leaning, but very clever. However, you never attempted to debate my points, only deflected by making an opposing list of questions, but I am eager to engage.
    You've missed my point. The deflection you are calling, "very clever" is exactly what you are doing. I don't think you believe in the examples I presented. They are the most extreme perceptions of Republican view removed of all nuance, which again is what you're doing. Classic strawman

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    Have we talked about this BYU/Dook volleyball thing here yet? Absolutely insane situation where NYT, WaPo, ESPN, etc. all just jumped on an allegation made by a Dook volleyball player about the fans at BYU calling her a racial slur. The problem is that the allegation is apparently not true. But you're not going to see any retraction from ESPN, WaPo, or NYT. They've moved on, and if their "reporting" has done any damage it's not their concern.

    South Carolina's Dawn Staley decided her women's basketball team would cancel a scheduled trip to BYU, because for god's sake you'd hate to take a risk of a bunch of black women living in South Carolina potentially being exposed to racism!

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