Politics Thread

[Strange Brew]

I was a Marine. What's your point?

I know. And I salute your service. Are you incapable of making an argument after being called a name? Some of your statements have been moronic but I don’t think you’re a moron.

I do think you’re incapable of making an argument to defend the current policies of President Biden. The last guy is gone.

[bobbiemcgee]

I know. And I salute your service. Are you incapable of making an argument after being called a name? Some of your statements have been moronic but I don’t think you’re a moron. .

Ditto.

[bobbiemcgee]

Happy Thanksgiving. Out.

[Strange Brew]

Ditto.

Cool beans. What Policy of the current President do you support?

[Strange Brew]

So this was fun.

I put it on you Mods. Do you stand for the 1st Amendment, the re-instatement of Lou and free trips to the salad bar?!?! This is America right? Right?

This aggression should not stand man!

[Xville]

Re Carlson’s “Lie” about George Floyd’s death: I don’t consider his statement a lie based upon the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s testimony in the Chauvin trial. To wit:
From KTSP.com
Dr Andrew Baker
Hennepin County Medical Examiner in his testimony in the Derrick Chauvin trial:
“Baker agrees with Attorney Nelson that Floyd's history of hypertension, heart disease and the drugs in his system played a role in his death.”
And:
“Nelson asked Baker about the statement the Hennepin County Attorney's Office put in the complaint. He said that he found no anatomical evidence of asphyxia.
"In terms of the placement of Mr. Chauvin's knee, would that anatomically cut off Mr. Floyd's airway?" Nelson asked.
"In my opinion, it would not," Baker answered.”
So. Drugs DID play a part and Chauvin’s knee did not asphyxiate. Lie? Hmmm.

Re: Tucker’s “Lie” about Georgia voter fraud:
Carlson apologized and issued a retraction on air about his initial report of “Dead People Voting” in Georgia. He issued that apology on November 14, 2020.
A misreporting? Yes. An apology & retraction issued? Yes also. He seems to own up to his mistakes.
Tell me the first time that CNN or MSNBC or most of the corporate media issue on air retractions and apologies. Say maybe about Russian Collusion & the Steele dossier that they pushed as true (looking at you Adam Schiff) for 2 years. That apology & retraction has never happened.
Try again.

Yea he lied because he said he died of an overdose, which isn’t true, and nothing you said above, disputes that. So now it’s ok to lie as long as you retract it? That’s not what we are talking about here. I do appreciate the mental gymnastics though.

Also, we aren’t talking about the other pundits. Trust me they are not any better, they do the same thing tucked does except for the other side. You will never see me defend them either.

Federal agents directly incited people on Jan 6th and intentionally entrapped American citizens


Jan 6th is being used as a pretext to strip millions of Americans of their constitutional rights

The green new deal came to Texas, the power grid in the state became completely reliant on windmills

[Masterofreality]

Yea he lied because he said he died of an overdose, which isn’t true, and nothing you said above, disputes that.

The Medical Examiner testified under oath that Floyd was not “asphyxiated” by Chauvins knee. The medical examiner testified Floyd had drugs in his system. And that they “contributed” to Floyd’s death. Uh, huh. That disputes your definition of a “Lie”. Drugs in somebody’s system causes deaths- especially Fentanyl, which was present. That’s called an overdose, no matter how you slice it. I’ll take a medical examiner’s statements under oath as more credible than a bunch of biased news reports covering for the preferred selected narrative.
I await your next attempt at bringing out Carlson’s lies. You know something that is opposite of your tunnel vision beliefs aren’t always lies, right? No matter how you try to twist it.

[Xville]

The Medical Examiner testified under oath that Floyd was not “asphyxiated” by Chauvins knee. The medical examiner testified Floyd had drugs in his system. And that they “contributed” to Floyd’s death. Uh, huh. That disputes your definition of a “Lie”. Drugs in somebody’s system causes deaths- especially Fentanyl, which was present. That’s called an overdose, no matter how you slice it. I’ll take a medical examiner’s statements under oath as more credible than a bunch of biased news reports covering for the preferred selected narrative.
I await your next attempt at bringing out Carlson’s lies. You know something that is opposite of your tunnel vision beliefs aren’t always lies, right? No matter how you try to twist it.

I already wrote more down. I don’t have tunnel vision beliefs. If I did, I’d just take everything that fox or cnn says as gospel or what politicians on one side or the other says as gospel.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...amp/7317557002 Yes I know this is USA Today, but the information within it is accurate, or would you just like to ignore the fact that the autopsy was ruled a homicide, the same medical examiner that you quoted ruled it a homicide, and that dr. Tobin a pulmonologist said a healthy person who was subjected to what Floyd went thru would have died.

That’s three separate sources, yet you took one little thing that the medical examiner said, twisted it to fit your narrative to try to discredit the actual truth. Sounds like something our cable news pundits like to do

[paulxu]

Fox News’s Tucker Carlson admitted he sometimes lies when he is "really cornered or something" in a new interview with “The Rubin Report” published Sunday.

“I lie. If I'm really cornered or something, I lie. I really try not to. I try never to lie on TV. I just don't, you know, I don't like lying. I certainly do it, you know, out of weakness or whatever,” Carlson said.

In her decision, Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil cited arguments from Fox News’s lawyers contending that the "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary,'" according to NPR.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5...d-or-something

[noteggs]

Found this article a couple weeks ago from Greenwald. Talks about Carlson and Maddow’s defamation lawsuits. Unfortunately we still have to figure out fact from fiction or facts vs opinion.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-c...addows-viewers