Politics Thread

[xubrew]

Two more questions that are again two different sides of the same coin..

1) Why wasn't Hillary Clinton locked up?? Trump accused her of being a criminal. Trump said he was going to do it. He had people chanting it at the rallies. Yet, he never did. Why not??

The only two possibilities I can think of (neither of which are good) is that she wasn't actually a criminal and that Trump was lying, or that she was a criminal but the justice department chose not to pursue it.


2) Why hasn't Trump been locked up?? The Democrats have accused him of being a criminal for years now. Yet, they haven't brought any charges. Why not??

The only two possibilities I can think of (neither of which are good) is that he's not actually a criminal and that the Democrats were lying, or that he is a criminal but the Justice Department is choosing not to pursue it.




It's also not good when large groups of brainwashed people can't see when they are clearly, blatantly, and obviously exhibiting a lot of the same characteristics that they attack the other side for exhibiting.

[XU_Lou]

He simply explained the parameters of the what the sentence will be for someone who pleads guilty to that particular crime.

I'm sorry that the point went over your head, or that apparently it also has to be explained to you. There is a two-tiered justice system that is growing in this country. If you commit a crime as a conservative/Republican, you get the book thrown at you. If you are a Democrat, or a BLM/Antifa activist, and commit a similar crime - or even a far worse crime, you walk free. There are dozens and dozens of examples. Free speech for Conservatives and Republicans is rapidly declining in almost all walks of life. Again, I'm sorry you're not aware of this, but that likely speaks to your news sources.

I just saw this. Is this the country you want to live in?:

https://www.worldviewweekend.com/new...-against-voter

[bobbiemcgee]

If you're news source is Lauren Boebert, you are truly a sick individual.

[XU_Lou]

If you're news source is Lauren Boebert, you are truly a sick individual.

She wasn't the news source.... she was the subject of that report, idiot...

Did she say anything that was untrue in that vid?

[Strange Brew]

If you're news source is Lauren Boebert, you are truly a sick individual.

Bobbie is anti-woman! Check your misogyny, oppressor!

[xubrew]

I'm sorry that the point went over your head, or that apparently it also has to be explained to you. There is a two-tiered justice system that is growing in this country. If you commit a crime as a conservative/Republican, you get the book thrown at you. If you are a Democrat, or a BLM/Antifa activist, and commit a similar crime - or even a far worse crime, you walk free. There are dozens and dozens of examples. Free speech for Conservatives and Republicans is rapidly declining in almost all walks of life. Again, I'm sorry you're not aware of this, but that likely speaks to your news sources.

I just saw this. Is this the country you want to live in?:

https://www.worldviewweekend.com/new...-against-voter

Aren't there like more than 20 people who are facing felony chargers for the riots in Portland? If they plead guilty or are convicted at trial, they'll face similar sentences.

Throwing a fit along the lines of "Well when WE riot, and assault police officers, and damage public property, WE get the book thrown at us!!" as if it's somehow a miscarriage of justice is a sure sign that you yourself are in fact brainwashed. That's not to say that many on the other side are not. But you absolutely are and you sound just as ridiculous.

[XU_Lou]

Aren't there like more than 20 people who are facing felony chargers for the riots in Portland? If they plead guilty or are convicted at trial, they'll face similar sentences.

Throwing a fit along the lines of "Well when WE riot, and assault police officers, and damage public property, WE get the book thrown at us!!" as if it's somehow a miscarriage of justice is a sure sign that you yourself are in fact brainwashed. That's not to say that many on the other side are not. But you absolutely are and you sound just as ridiculous.

Again, you've purposely or not have failed to grasp my point.

"20 people who are facing felony chargers for the riots in Portland" ---- Out of how many thousands that destroyed federal and state properties, and were responsible for how many billions of dollars in damages?

Here's some reality:

From the NYT: "Now, more than five months later, as Mr. Kaufmann’s case and those of thousands of others finally land in courts across the United States, a vast majority of cases against protesters are being dismissed."

"In the aftermath, prosecutors declined to pursue many of the cases because they concluded that the protesters were exercising their basic civil rights. Cases involving free speech or free assembly rarely succeed in court, according to prosecutors across the country"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/u...s-arrests.html

From Politico: "Federal prosecutors’ show of leniency for some defendants charged in the long-running unrest in the streets of Portland could have an impact on similar criminal cases stemming from the Capitol riot, lawyers say."

"The arrangements — known as deferred resolution agreements — will leave the defendants with a clean criminal record if they stay out of trouble for a period of time"

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...t-cases-481346

"HUNDREDS of Black Lives Matter protesters who were arrested for looting, vandalising and rioting across New York have had their charges dropped": https://www.the-sun.com/news/3123181...arges-dropped/

Charges against hundreds of NYC rioters, looters have been dropped: https://nypost.com/2021/06/20/hundre...arges-dropped/

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/ne...-jamie-bullock

https://www.thegazette.com/crime-cou...matter-leader/

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020...est-cases.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/almost-...ed-11618501979

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/90924...e-misdemeanors

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...sters-arrests/

Do you recall the FBI breaking into the homes in dawn raids to arrest any of the BLM/Antifa thugs? Where's the leniency shown to BLM/Antifa rioters for the Republicans who simply walked into the halls of Congress (41 months for trespassing, c'mon man!)? Were any of the BLM/Antifa rioters placed in solitary confinement for even just a day, not 10 months like those who were "exercising their free speech" on 1/6/21?

[xubrew]

Again, you've purposely or not have failed to grasp my point.

"20 people who are facing felony chargers for the riots in Portland" ---- Out of how many thousands that destroyed federal and state properties, and were responsible for how many billions of dollars in damages?

Here's some reality:

From the NYT: "Now, more than five months later, as Mr. Kaufmann’s case and those of thousands of others finally land in courts across the United States, a vast majority of cases against protesters are being dismissed."

"In the aftermath, prosecutors declined to pursue many of the cases because they concluded that the protesters were exercising their basic civil rights. Cases involving free speech or free assembly rarely succeed in court, according to prosecutors across the country"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/u...s-arrests.html

From Politico: "Federal prosecutors’ show of leniency for some defendants charged in the long-running unrest in the streets of Portland could have an impact on similar criminal cases stemming from the Capitol riot, lawyers say."

"The arrangements — known as deferred resolution agreements — will leave the defendants with a clean criminal record if they stay out of trouble for a period of time"

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...t-cases-481346

"HUNDREDS of Black Lives Matter protesters who were arrested for looting, vandalising and rioting across New York have had their charges dropped": https://www.the-sun.com/news/3123181...arges-dropped/

Charges against hundreds of NYC rioters, looters have been dropped: https://nypost.com/2021/06/20/hundre...arges-dropped/

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/ne...-jamie-bullock

https://www.thegazette.com/crime-cou...matter-leader/

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020...est-cases.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/almost-...ed-11618501979

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/90924...e-misdemeanors

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...sters-arrests/

Do you recall the FBI breaking into the homes in dawn raids to arrest any of the BLM/Antifa thugs? Where's the leniency shown to BLM/Antifa rioters for the Republicans who simply walked into the halls of Congress (41 months for trespassing, c'mon man!)? Were any of the BLM/Antifa rioters placed in solitary confinement for even just a day, not 10 months like those who were "exercising their free speech" on 1/6/21?

I understand your point just fine. I think everyone does. Just because people think you and your points are completely jaded doesn't mean they don't understand them.

To me, all you're doing is singing different lyrics to the same rhythm. You really are a lot like the radical left. They say they're the ones being targeted by the police, and that when they protest they're dealt with much more severely, and had it been a leftist group that protested at the capitol that law enforcement would have responded with much more force and had more officers on hand to deal with it, and that when BLM protests there is a much bigger police presence than there ever was at the capitol.

You sound exactly the same! You latch on to any piece of media, or really anything at all, that's in line with what you think and feel without even considering doing any sort of vetting, and then completely disregard anything that disputes it as either being fake or ignorant. You're the same as the radical left. That's MY point!! And, I really don’t have to say all that much to make that point because you continue to further it every time you post. Now I don't expect you to realize that because, like the majority of the fanatical radical left, you've been brainwashed.

[XU_Lou]

I understand your point just fine. I think everyone does. Just because people think you and your points are completely jaded doesn't mean they don't understand them.

To me, all you're doing is singing different lyrics to the same rhythm. You really are a lot like the radical left. They say they're the ones being targeted by the police, and that when they protest they're dealt with much more severely, and had it been a leftist group that protested at the capitol that law enforcement would have responded with much more force and had more officers on hand to deal with it, and that when BLM protests there is a much bigger police presence than there ever was at the capitol.

You sound exactly the same! You latch on to any piece of media, or really anything at all, that's in line with what you think and feel without even considering doing any sort of vetting, and then completely disregard anything that disputes it as either being fake or ignorant. You're the same as the radical left. That's MY point!! And, I really don’t have to say all that much to make that point because you continue to further it every time you post. Now I don't expect you to realize that because, like the majority of the fanatical radical left, you've been brainwashed.

A lot of conjecture in here, and a lot of false points and ignorance of facts.

[Xville]

I understand your point just fine. I think everyone does. Just because people think you and your points are completely jaded doesn't mean they don't understand them.

To me, all you're doing is singing different lyrics to the same rhythm. You really are a lot like the radical left. They say they're the ones being targeted by the police, and that when they protest they're dealt with much more severely, and had it been a leftist group that protested at the capitol that law enforcement would have responded with much more force and had more officers on hand to deal with it, and that when BLM protests there is a much bigger police presence than there ever was at the capitol.

You sound exactly the same! You latch on to any piece of media, or really anything at all, that's in line with what you think and feel without even considering doing any sort of vetting, and then completely disregard anything that disputes it as either being fake or ignorant. You're the same as the radical left. That's MY point!! And, I really don’t have to say all that much to make that point because you continue to further it every time you post. Now I don't expect you to realize that because, like the majority of the fanatical radical left, you've been brainwashed.

Wasting time…guy is a complete nut job that has zero self awareness