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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    We were on our way to paying it way down...until this happened:



    https://www.cbpp.org/research/gettin...facts-straight
    Sure, then 911 and Obama. Projected is not actual. Had nothing to do with taxes and Clinton can thank the Rs in Congress for the projected surpluses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    I noted the "greatest drivers." You are correct there were others, for example the Medicare Drug program and tying the hands (which are still tied) of Medicare to negotiate drug pricing. That's just crazy.
    Yep, not a fan of that dumb idea so Bush could win in ‘04 either. But I’m fairness I was in my early 20s but still would’ve voted differently if Lieberman ran instead of Kerry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    We were on our way to paying it way down...until this happened:



    https://www.cbpp.org/research/gettin...facts-straight
    Uh, you do know that 9/11. Happened, correct?
    And that all the International Intel said that Saddam had WMD’s?
    If the Dems somehow pass this monstrosity of a Bill, the US won’t be able to fund a military response to, say, a Chinese incursion into Taiwan or even worse places.

    Yes, Brew. It DOES make a difference as to which party is in power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterofreality View Post
    Uh, you do know that 9/11. Happened, correct?
    And that all the International Intel said that Saddam had WMD’s?
    If the Dems somehow pass this monstrosity of a Bill, the US won’t be able to fund a military response to, say, a Chinese incursion into Taiwan or even worse places.

    Yes, Brew. It DOES make a difference as to which party is in power.
    Don’t forget many prominent Ds voted for the Iraq war before they were against it…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterofreality View Post
    And that all the International Intel said that Saddam had WMD’s?
    You do know I hope, that the International Intelligence community that had inspectors on the ground had found no evidence that Saddam had WMD's.
    You should research the Downing Street memo, or look at the international intelligence at the point we went to war in Iraq.

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    Don’t forget many prominent Ds voted for the Iraq war before they were against it…
    I don't forget it, and it's not good that they were.
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    You do know I hope, that the International Intelligence community that had inspectors on the ground had found no evidence that Saddam had WMD's.
    You should research the Downing Street memo, or look at the international intelligence at the point we went to war in Iraq.

    https://www.armscontrol.org/blog/201...ssary-war-iraq



    I don't forget it, and it's not good that they were.
    Not to rehash the argument but strategically that war was about much more than WMDs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    Not to rehash the argument but strategically that war was about much more than WMDs.
    Yes, it was really about nation-building. But the Bush administration had to lie about that because it wouldn't fly politically. I blame the Cheney-Rumsfeld-Wolfowicz axis for that colossal and damaging CF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-man View Post
    Yes, it was really about nation-building. But the Bush administration had to lie about that because it wouldn't fly politically. I blame the Cheney-Rumsfeld-Wolfowicz axis for that colossal and damaging CF.
    That too and containment of Iran while securing US interests in the region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    That too and containment of Iran while securing US interests in the region.
    "That too" implies that WMD was part of the reason. It wasn't. It was a total lie engineered by the Cheney et al nation-builders.
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    Meanwhile, today, where it counts, inflation has risen to a 13 year high of 5.4% year over year.
    This Administration is a Dumpster Fire. Will they ever get anything right?
    Spending $5 Trillion more is, of course, the answer to curb inflation. Just keep those printing presses rolling, huh.
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