Politics Thread

[Strange Brew]

Thoughts on Gerrymandering? Should it be allowed?

Both sides have used it for years so sure. Or not. Doesn’t really change much if both sides have to stop.

[Strange Brew]

Fascinating that you can post that after the former guy tore through any number of defense secretaries and allowed the hollowing out of our State Department.
The last Defense Secretary who served for a couple of months,

And of course set on his hands for a couple hours while our Capitol was being over run.

There are numerous challenges on the international stage that will stress the new administration. I feel confident the people who are working there now will do a better job than before.

Actually Pelosi was in charge of the Gaurd that day...

[Masterofreality]

Fascinating that you can post that after the former guy tore through any number of defense secretaries and allowed the hollowing out of our State Department.
The last Defense Secretary who served for a couple of months,

And of course set on his hands for a couple hours while our Capitol was being over run.

There are numerous challenges on the international stage that will stress the new administration. I feel confident the people who are working there now will do a better job than before.

The last administration was the only one for over 60 years to not start a new war, and was actually putting the “Peace Through Strength” mantra into place.
Want to try again?

[Strange Brew]

The last administration was the only one for over 60 years to not start a new war, and was actually putting the “Peace Through Strength” mantra into place.
Want to try again?

Don’t confuse Paul with facts and common sense.

[paulxu]

Let me forward your questions to the families of the Capitol Hill Police.

As to the claim about starting wars, perhaps you been playing back a post that said:

“Did ya know? This was the 1st 4 year term with out <sic> a new war since Eisenhower.” The poster did not respond to USA TODAY's requests for comment.

Eisenhower was president 60 years ago.

We rate this claim FALSE, based on our research. Trump's term in office has not been the first four-year term since Eisenhower without a new war. Carter, Ford and Nixon all served after Eisenhower and did not bring the country into new wars.

I'll try not to confuse you with facts.

[Masterofreality]

Let me forward your questions to the families of the Capitol Hill Police.

As to the claim about starting wars, perhaps you been playing back a post that said:

Eisenhower was president 60 years ago.


I'll try not to confuse you with facts.

Uh.....from Reuters:
” Despite his policy of Vietnamization (a plan to gradually withdraw), President Richard Nixon intensified the conflict on other fronts, especially in Cambodia and Laos “
Ford was a continuation of Nixon’s term, Nixon’s policies and was his VP, and NOT re-elected to his own term, so to include him in this list is inaccurate at best.

Weak Jimmy Carter had an Ayatollah led Iran Hostage Crisis- An Act of War vs the United States that was equivalent to an attack on the Country, but he was too weak to resolve it- that wasn’t solved until Reagan took office. Carter also cost the lives of American soldiers in the Middle Eastern Desert by his clumsy and chicken hearted Milquetoast moves.

That is some “fact-check”. More of an “opinion check”.

The article I linked is from Australia. They, Taiwan and Japan are very nervous with good reason. Don’t divert attention from your Puppet Dementia Ridden President who can’t even finish complete sentences.

[Masterofreality]

Thoughts on Gerrymandering? Should it be allowed?

I live in a “Gerrymandered” District- from Toledo through *only* the eastern end of Cuyahoga County. One part of this “District” is only 3 blocks wide.
It was Gerrymandered by Democrats so Dems would win. Summit, Medina and Geauga Counties are conveniently left out. So are the cities of Avon, Westlake, Bay Village Fairview Park and Rocky River are mostly left out. A Republican represents those communities and if there was no “gerry” by the Dems, they would have 2 less Reps.

[paulxu]

The last administration was the only one for over 60 years to not start a new war, and was actually putting the “Peace Through Strength” mantra into place.
Want to try again?

You've got to know "starting a war" and "continuing one you inherit" are two different things. That's not an "opinion," it's a fact.

As to Ohio's redistricting, I think if you check, the current congressional districts, which were re-drawn after the 2010 census, were drawn by the party in power in the Ohio state house...the Republicans. So if you live in a highly gerrymandered district, like the one you describe from Toledo eastward, call the state Republican party. Don't blame it on Dems.

[Strange Brew]

You've got to know "starting a war" and "continuing one you inherit" are two different things. That's not an "opinion," it's a fact.

As to Ohio's redistricting, I think if you check, the current congressional districts, which were re-drawn after the 2010 census, were drawn by the party in power in the Ohio state house...the Republicans. So if you live in a highly gerrymandered district, like the one you describe from Toledo eastward, call the state Republican party. Don't blame it on Dems.

Save it Paul. If the Rs did it in 2010 then good because the Ds did it for decades before the Gingrich House. Save it. What goes around comes around. Sorry if you don’t like when the other side fights back.

Edit: I’m not even a Republican but everyone is tired of the Left complaining when the Right fights back. We’re done playing nice.

[paulxu]

Save it Paul. If the Rs did it in 2010 then good because the Ds did it for decades before the Gingrich House. Save it. What goes around comes around. Sorry if you don’t like when the other side fights back.

Edit: I’m not even a Republican but everyone is tired of the Left complaining when the Right fights back. We’re done playing nice.

Good for you. Just stick to the facts though. Re-redistricting is done state by state, and has nothing to do with Gingrich in the national congress.
I'm not complaining about anything. I just like to have dialogue based on facts, not somebody's tweets, or news feed from opinion artists.

I think the Republicans outplayed the Dems with a concentrated playbook for decades. My "opinion" is that much of it is fear based, from Lee Atwater all the way to Trump. Hopefully the Dems wake up to that, although they don't seem to be anywhere near as well organized nationally.