Politics Thread

[Strange Brew]

Just coincidence I'm sure, but his private Deutsche bank bankers just resigned.

Probably is nothing. Deutsche MNA teams jump around often (most major banks do for one reason or another).

[waggy]

"I am asking Congress to amend this bill and increase the ridiculously low $600 dollars to $2,000, or $4,000 for a couple," Mr. Trump said in the recorded message. "I am also asking Congress to immediately get rid of the wasteful and unnecessary items in this legislation, and to send me a suitable bill, or else the next administration will have to deliver a COVID relief package. And maybe that administration will be me, and we will get it done."

Thought this from Trump was interesting. The two relief/stimulus packages together is about 3.6 trillion dollars. Roughly that's 12 million per dead person. And much much more than that when the 90% comorbid are subtracted.

[boozehound]

Thought this from Trump was interesting. The two relief/stimulus packages together is about 3.6 trillion dollars. Roughly that's 12 million per dead person. And much much more than that when the 90% comorbid are subtracted. [/FONT][/COLOR]

Fiscal conservatism is not Trump’s thing. For as much shit as we (rightfully) gave Obama for increasing the budget deficit, Trump has accelerated that. He is a populist and if you view this through that lens, it makes a lot more sense. Who doesn’t want $2K, right? Screw the deficit, that’s a future problem!

Personally I’m all for helping people, but I think that the aid needs to be focused on people who have directly lost their income, not just sending cash to all low/middle income families, many of whom have not been financially impacted.

[Xville]

Fiscal conservatism is not Trump’s thing. For as much shit as we (rightfully) gave Obama for increasing the budget deficit, Trump has accelerated that. He is a populist and if you view this through that lens, it makes a lot more sense. Who doesn’t want $2K, right? Screw the deficit, that’s a future problem!

Personally I’m all for helping people, but I think that the aid needs to be focused on people who have directly lost their income, not just sending cash to all low/middle income families, many of whom have not been financially impacted.

the annoying part on this "covid" bill is that it seems like most of it has nothing to do with covid relief. 700 million to Sudan, however million to the effing Kennedy Center etc etc. Most of it is a typical government spending bill, wrapped up in the name of covid relief. Its baloney. 600 dollars to a person that is struggling is a slap in the face, especially when you see where a lot of the rest of this money is going

[Smails]

I do not pretend to know much about what goes into the 'bill building' process on Capitol Hill. But can anyone on either side of the aisle explain to me why we are giving the Sudan 700 million dollars as part of the US Covid relief bill? I know the republicans are all up in arms and shouting from the rooftops, but can some of the staunch dems on this board explain why they are okay (or not okay) with this? It seems like this is a no-brainer issue that Dem and GOP supporters could agree on....no?

[GoMuskies]

Isn't that the completely separate omnibus spending bill that has the Sudan money?

[Xville]

Isn't that the completely separate omnibus spending bill that has the Sudan money?

Probably, but regardless, is that really what we need to be doing right now? Yes I'm a heartless bastard but I dont give a shit about Sudan.

[paulxu]

I would guess it has to do with Israel.

https://www.axios.com/trump-grants-i...42e2e7312.html

[paulxu]

Regarding sending $ to people, it would seem that sending a larger amount to just the people really hurting (maybe the bottom 10-20% of households) would be much more effective. Relieve the worse stress and the money would almost all go directly back into the economy for food, rent, etc.

I know...wishful thinking.

[tacopizza885]

News from Today:

Trump's veto of the stimulus bill:

Trump is apparently mad at McConnell/Thune, and declaring war on any high ranking Republican who acknowledges the results of a fair election. We all want to cut the pork out of any bill, but we don't want to defund our military, TSA, etc. The people deserve a 2K check, during this pandemic, and small businesses deserve funding also. BUT, this seems like more of a revenge move. I am all for a stimulus package for struggling Americans. Yet, I'm quite certain, this has more to do with optics, then concern from our leader in chief.

Iran:

Iran is firing missiles into Iraq, and Trump has pictures. Particularly, of three duds, that failed to launch and reach their target. So, on goes the chest thumping and threat to retaliate. Let's hope and pray that sensible minds prevail.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...62955604975617

Hunter Biden

It is being reported that Jared Kushner diverted campaign donations/funds to a shell company before the 2020 election. Given that half the country supports Trump, this may explain the lack of funding for ads/campaigning in swing states.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-shell-company



Nepotism

https://www.gq.com/story/trump-kids-profit-presidency



I imagine many of you are getting worn out by politics (like myself). Maybe the answer (chosen one) is among us.

Snipe is a uniter NOT a divider. YET where was he when we landed in Omaha? No post? No thread? Nothing. Silence.

Perhaps the success of the Musketeers will be determined by Snipe's leadership, perhaps the fate of America will also. The question is, will he step up?