Politics Thread

XU_Lou · 07-29-2020, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by XU 87

Yep, the liberal way. When you don't agree with someone, you find some means to just shut that person up, or in the case, you shut up multiple people. I suspect the left will also try to have the doctors who spoke on this video fired. Why is the left so intolerant? Why do you take such delight in literally destroying people's careers or reputations, simply because they disagree with you?

Bingo!

Here are some facts. First of all, there are virtually no side effects for the vast majority of people taking hydroxychloroquine. This is from the National Institutes of Health (NIH): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7128816/

"Chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine has a well-studied toxicity profile. The half-century-long use of this drug in the therapy of malaria demonstrates the safety of acute administration of chloroquine to human beings. The use of chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine in rheumatic diseases and for antimalarial prophylaxis showed a low incidence of adverse events during chronic administration of this drug for periods of up to a few years. In these cases, the most serious toxic effect is a macular retinopathy, which depends on the cumulative dose rather than on the daily dose, and permanent damage may be prevented with regular visual monitoring during treatment.27, 28, 29 A recent study30 provided encouraging results on the safety of a high dosage of the drug (up to 500 mg of chloroquine base per day) even during pregnancy.

We conclude that chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine administration presents limited and well-preventable toxicity and may thus result in a low risk/benefit balance at least when it is used in life-threatening conditions."

One of the most recent studies for the use of hydroxychloroquine in treatment of Covid just came from the Henry Ford Health System. The study "Shows Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients". The study was from an analysis of 2,541 patients - and peer reviewed. The key to using this drug as an effective measure against Covid is to use it early. Using it in late stages doesn't appear to be effective: https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/...reatment-study

Dr. Harvey Risch, an epidemiology professor at Yale School of Public Health, said on Tuesday that he thinks hydroxychloroquine could save 75,000 to 100,000 lives if the drug is widely used to treat coronavirus:https://www.foxnews.com/media/hydrox...yale-professor

Worldwide, there have been 65 studies on the use of hydroxychloroquine as treatment for Covid (39 have been peer reviewed). Though some have proven to be negative, some inconclusive, the vast majority show positive results for the use of hydroxychloroquine: https://c19study.com/

Anecdotally, there are many, many doctors who have reported major success in the use of hydroxychloroquine. Added up, all of this data/info cannot be ignored. Is hydroxychloroquine a perfect treatment - I don't know, but it's much better than waiting for a vaccine if you have the disease.

**GoMuskies** · 07-29-2020, 10:10 AM

WaPo will now capitalize Black and White when referring to people's skin color. Why? Because 2020 is the worst year ever.

**boozehound** · 07-29-2020, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by XU 87

Yep, the liberal way. When you don't agree with someone, you find some means to just shut that person up, or in this case, you shut up multiple people. I suspect the left will also try to have the doctors who spoke on this video fired. Why is the left so intolerant? Why do you take such delight in literally destroying people's careers or reputations, simply because they disagree with you?

Are you serious with this bullshit? The 'sex with demons' Doctor? Yeah - I don't think we should be listening to her. At all. I also feel the same way about anti-vaxxers on the left.

There is 'intolerant' and then there is 'not listening to shit that is clearly crazy'. It's hard to take seriously anyone arguing that this is the former.

XU_Lou · 07-29-2020, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by boozehound

Are you serious with this bullshit? The 'sex with demons' Doctor? Yeah - I don't think we should be listening to her. At all. I also feel the same way about anti-vaxxers on the left.

There is 'intolerant' and then there is 'not listening to shit that is clearly crazy'. It's hard to take seriously anyone arguing that this is the former.

I noticed how you conveniently skimmed over the data I provided above. Perhaps Dr. Emmanuel has some crazy viewpoints, but you, nor the liberal media, have provided any type of counter to her findings. Her viewpoints have NOTHING to do with the effectiveness of HCQ that many doctors and studies have found around the world. Please, stop the deflecting....

XU 87 · 07-29-2020, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by boozehound

Are you serious with this bullshit? The 'sex with demons' Doctor? Yeah - I don't think we should be listening to her. At all. I also feel the same way about anti-vaxxers on the left.

There is 'intolerant' and then there is 'not listening to shit that is clearly crazy'. It's hard to take seriously anyone arguing that this is the former.

Well, I 'm glad you have made the decision that the rest of us should not be permitted to listen to her or any of the other doctors (there were at least five) on that video discussing their opinions on covid solely because you disagree with them.

Your post confirms what I said- you don't agree with what these doctors say. Therefore, the rest of us shouldn't be permitted to hear what they have to say. The left will not tolerate permitting people to form their own opinions which may differ from theirs.

I again ask you- why is the left so intolerant? Why do you have shut down those you disagree with?

XU 87 · 07-29-2020, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by XU_Lou

I noticed how you conveniently skimmed over the data I provided above. Perhaps Dr. Emmanuel has some crazy viewpoints, but you, nor the liberal media, have provided any type of counter to her findings. Her viewpoints have NOTHING to do with the effectiveness of HCQ that many doctors and studies have found around the world. Please, stop the deflecting....

Trump said he thinks HCQ is effective. According to left doctrine, Trump can never be correct about anything. Therefore, the left goes into hysteria and says HCQ is not effective and anyone who says otherwise needs to be shut down. It's really that simple. If Trump hadn't mentioned HCQ, the left wouldn't be going into this consistent outrage when discussing its potential benefits. Trump MUST be shown to be wrong. Period.

XU_Lou · 07-29-2020, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by XU 87

Trump said he thinks HCQ is effective. According to left doctrine, Trump can never be correct about anything. Therefore, the left goes into hysteria and says HCQ is not effective and anyone who says otherwise needs to be shut down. It's really that simple. If Trump hadn't mentioned HCQ, the left wouldn't be going into this consistent outrage when discussing its potential benefits. Trump MUST be shown to be wrong. Period.

I believe you are 100% correct on that. The left jumped on that immediately after he first mentioned it.