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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrett View Post
    What does that even mean?
    It was about something he tweeted last night making fun of her. It was a joke (by me, not by Trump).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    It was about something he tweeted last night making fun of her. It was a joke (by me, not by Trump).
    Got it.

    I think AOC and Trump have a lot it common. For example, neither of them has any business being a politician.

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    Man, it’s going to be hard to get that Genie back in the bottle.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/john-...trategy-2019-6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrett View Post
    Got it.

    I think AOC and Trump have a lot it common. For example, neither of them has any business being a politician.
    I read an interesting article a few months ago which discussed that AOC and Trump are very similar, not in their political beliefs, but in how they go about presenting their beliefs and arguing against the other side. Peggy Noonan may have been the author, but I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee View Post
    Did you forget the "stable genius' called Rubio a "leightweight chocker."
    Bobbie, do you believe in Socialism, in any form?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee View Post
    Did you forget the "stable genius' called Rubio a "leightweight chocker."
    Do you reject Satan and all his evils?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    "Socialism," this election cycle's "Muslims" or "Mexicans."

    Need to keep stoking the fear of the other.
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    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
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    Paul, with all due respect, this is very different.

    How does the Declaration of Independence define freedom? - - Wants without hindrance or restraint. In other words, freedom is the right to be an individual, a right that Americans are fortunate enough to have defined and protected in the founding documents of this country. The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.

    What is the principle of liberty? - - The principle that individuals have an unalienable right to act in their own interest with complete control over themselves and their production (i.e. property), and are the sole arbiters of what is best for themselves so long as their actions do not infringe upon the liberty or property rights of others.

    Mine is a simple question. This nation has been about freedom and liberty, albeit not always uniformly and effectively applied. Socialism is about the collective good.

    One of the Democrats running for President was booed during a campaign speech last night in California for denouncing socialism. There were "American Citizens" (i.e. nut jobs) booing a candidate because he positioned himself firmly away from the Far Left's desire to VENEZUELAIZE the United States.

    We have liberals on this site. They're as welcome here as I am, I hope. I just want to know how far to the left they've positioned themselves in terms of taking a position on how best to make the United States stronger.

    With all that noted, do I believe there is income inequality? Hell, yes, of course I do; anyone who can interpret data and is honest with him or herself could only come to that conclusion.

    Can you fix greed? Doesn't look promising, based on history and the greed that exists with certain people in power in both capitalist and socialist economic systems.

    The question stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    "Socialism," this election cycle's "Muslims" or "Mexicans."

    Need to keep stoking the fear of the other.
    "Capitalist," this election cycles "white" "straight" "racist" "homophobic" "male."

    You keep stoking the fear of the other too, buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xudash View Post
    Paul, with all due respect, this is very different.

    How does the Declaration of Independence define freedom? - - Wants without hindrance or restraint. In other words, freedom is the right to be an individual, a right that Americans are fortunate enough to have defined and protected in the founding documents of this country. The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.

    What is the principle of liberty? - - The principle that individuals have an unalienable right to act in their own interest with complete control over themselves and their production (i.e. property), and are the sole arbiters of what is best for themselves so long as their actions do not infringe upon the liberty or property rights of others.

    Mine is a simple question. This nation has been about freedom and liberty, albeit not always uniformly and effectively applied. Socialism is about the collective good.

    One of the Democrats running for President was booed during a campaign speech last night in California for denouncing socialism. There were "American Citizens" (i.e. nut jobs) booing a candidate because he positioned himself firmly away from the Far Left's desire to VENEZUELAIZE the United States.

    We have liberals on this site. They're as welcome here as I am, I hope. I just want to know how far to the left they've positioned themselves in terms of taking a position on how best to make the United States stronger.

    With all that noted, do I believe there is income inequality? Hell, yes, of course I do; anyone who can interpret data and is honest with him or herself could only come to that conclusion.

    Can you fix greed? Doesn't look promising, based on history and the greed that exists with certain people in power in both capitalist and socialist economic systems.

    The question stands.
    I like how you phrased this and I think it gets at something I've been saying to the point where family tells me to shut up. All of this polarity, Trump, Bernie, AOC, all of it is a result of '08, the bailouts, and the Fed's quantitative easing propping up asset prices. People love to talk about the perils of socialism versus capitalism and I am totally a believer in capitalism. But we don't have capitalism. I'm stealing this quote from someone, but capitalism without default/bankruptcy is like Catholicism without hell.

    Take your line about "individuals have an unalienable right to act in their own interest" and consider that millions of Americans bailed out banks and propped up asset prices of others. The promise of that freedom you mention was broken then, and you can't just patch it back up. The economy is supposedly great, the longest bull market ever, and yet millions have not experienced any growth. They don't care about these principles because when the going got tough the government bailed on them and bailed out banks and investors.

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