Politics Thread

ArizonaXUGrad · 10-19-2018, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by bjf123

I wish I could find it now, but I remember seeing a study a university did on the coverage of either the Obama McCain presidential race in 2008 or Obama Romney in 2012 (I think it was McCain). They looked at all news stories presented by the major news networks, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC. It did not include shows like Hannity, etc., that are clearly not news.

Stories were categorized as positive, neutral, or negative. Fox was pretty much dead even for both candidates. CNN was next, but skewed slightly with more positive stories on Obama and more negative stories on McCain. The 3 broadcast networks were a little more biased in favor of Obama. MSNBC was clearly the worst, with few negative stories on Obama, and few positive stories on McCain.

I’m sure the same study today would return very different results.

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Pew ran one that showed MSNBC and Fox skewed for their candidate at equal levels of bias. In 2012, they found the gap increased but remained equally biased. Interest, Fox and MSNBC went extreme hand in hand.

**bobbiemcgee** · 10-19-2018, 07:03 PM

If the news comments on something really f'ing stupid that Trump said....is that bias?

Caf · 10-20-2018, 09:29 AM

Saudi Arabia fires 5 top officials, arrests 18 Saudis, saying Khashoggi was killed in fight at consulate

The statement makes no mentions of where his remains are. Definitely sounds like a fight gone wrong. I'm anxiously awaiting our government to say, "well, I'm glad that's settled!"

ArizonaXUGrad · 10-20-2018, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Caf

Saudi Arabia fires 5 top officials, arrests 18 Saudis, saying Khashoggi was killed in fight at consulate

The statement makes no mentions of where his remains are. Definitely sounds like a fight gone wrong. I'm anxiously awaiting our government to say, "well, I'm glad that's settled!"

Caf google the Saudi’s response to this as it has evolved. I have quite often gone somewhere I am not welcome and gotten into a fight 1 vs 18.

This is the progression...

He was never at the consulate.
He came in and left.
He came in the left and disappeared.
He came in and left the the 15 people there were just tourists who came to turkey and left in under 24 hours.
He might be dead and we think rogue killers did it.
He is likely dead but it was an interrogation gone wrong.
He is dead and it was from a fight gone wrong.

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Caf · 10-20-2018, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad

Caf google the Saudi’s response to this as it has evolved. I have quite often gone somewhere I am not welcome and gotten into a fight 1 vs 18.

This is the progression...

He was never at the consulate.
He came in and left.
He came in the left and disappeared.
He came in and left the the 15 people there were just tourists who came to turkey and left in under 24 hours.
He might be dead and we think rogue killers did it.
He is likely dead but it was an interrogation gone wrong.
He is dead and it was from a fight gone wrong.

Oh yeah I was being sarcastic. This explanation is a load of shit

**noteggs** · 10-20-2018, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Caf

Do you disagree with what was produced? Below is a link to her criteria, start at, "Factors for Placing the News Sources on the Chart". The list of 17 is pretty interesting. I've never dug into this either, but it's seems fairly methodical.

Here are 2 I found very smart:

https://www.adfontesmedia.com/the-re...ind-the-chart/

In general I do. Two reasons come to mind: she did not quantify how many stories were pro/against each party. That’s always been a concern of the right. IMO, if 80% of stories were negative to one party and only 20% for the other, that needs to be part of the analysis. She recognized this because her lack of resources. However, she did have a category called “sensationalism” which talk about repeating (overhyped) the same story for ratings which I thought was cool.

Secondly she said she couldn’t completely take her biases out. With that said, I appreciate her honesty and effort to take them out.

Thanks for sending out the methodology, it was a great read. Also, thanks to ChicagoX for sending out the other links. I really enjoy trying to figure out why people think they way they do. Heck that’s the only reason I read this thread. Glad I took the time to read.