Politics Thread

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I'm not going to argue whether boards are effective/worthwhile/whatever, but the quoted part is my point. Complain about executive comp if you want. In a lot of cases I won't disagree. But board comp isn't enough to care about (in most cases).

And on executive comp, I'm all for requiring lots of disclosure, but I don't see any reason to otherwise regulate how high it can/should go. I'll leave that to the ISS/CALPERS of the world.

SEC requires public companies to disclose executive pay vs. worker pay in their proxy statements now.

[GoMuskies]

SEC requires public companies to disclose executive pay vs. worker pay in their proxy statements now.

And I've got no issue with that. Also, if the stock is performing well, I'm not going to give a rat's ass what the C-suite guys/gals are getting paid.

[Caf]

$250k each for an average of F500 companies is not pennies (per Boston Globe). It's pennies when you consider executive pay, but certainly not pennies when you put a human eye to them.

Oh so exactly what I said?

[ArizonaXUGrad]

And I've got no issue with that. Also, if the stock is performing well, I'm not going to give a rat's ass what the C-suite guys/gals are getting paid.

Why do you not care? It is directly causing wage stagnation everywhere else.

Yes 250k is a lot for one person.


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[GoMuskies]

We'll just have to agree to disagree on both of those points.

[mohr5150]

Also:
1) Many if not all teaching jobs offer some/partial loan forgiveness after a certain amount of time being a teacher.
2) Teachers gets raises based on service time very easily. Their time at 40k is short lived.

Uhhh... think a little differently. I've been a Catholic school teacher for 24 years, and my salary has been stagnant for 10+ years. I started in 95 at 17,000. And don't give me the BS of working 10 months. I spend a whole lot of time in the summer trying to better myself as a teacher by taking courses, attending conferences, and updating assignments to meet the needs of today's students. Counting my commute, I'm working for 10-11 hours a day, and that's not counting any grading or communicating with parents that happens at home. I get a 15 minute lunch on most days and a 40 minute break during the day typically spent working or putting out fires. Teaching is a tough, tough job. Anyone who wants to try it out or belittle it, message me and I'll give you the opportunity to give it a try after you take the Vertus class we have to take because of the Church turning a blind eye on pedophiles.

[Juice]

Uhhh... think a little differently. I've been a Catholic school teacher for 24 years, and my salary has been stagnant for 10+ years. I started in 95 at 17,000. And don't give me the BS of working 10 months. I spend a whole lot of time in the summer trying to better myself as a teacher by taking courses, attending conferences, and updating assignments to meet the needs of today's students. Counting my commute, I'm working for 10-11 hours a day, and that's not counting any grading or communicating with parents that happens at home. I get a 15 minute lunch on most days and a 40 minute break during the day typically spent working or putting out fires. Teaching is a tough, tough job. Anyone who wants to try it out or belittle it, message me and I'll give you the opportunity to give it a try after you take the Vertus class we have to take because of the Church turning a blind eye on pedophiles.

I was referring to public schools.

Counting my commute? Jesus dude, who counts their commute when counting the hours they worked that day?

And I had to take the Virtus class and update with online stuff for coaching at a Catholic school.

[bigdiggins]

Arizona, serious question. Why does the left always go after CEO pay, but not address those who make significantly more? The average Fotune 500 CEO makes about $10.5 million. This of course includes equity comp which is only valuable if the company succeeds. Bastion of progressivism Matt Damon averages $40m per year. The average nba salary is $5m and of course LeBron makes nearly $40m. Are entertainers exempt because they lean left and its easier to just paint the CEO as a racist old white guy, or do those on the left honestly think it's easy to lead a large organization so CEO s should not be able to capitalize on their talent as an entertainer does?

If we limited those salaries then teachers could afford to go to a movie or a ballgame.

[mohr5150]

I was referring to public schools.

Counting my commute? Jesus dude, who counts their commute when counting the hours they worked that day?

And I had to take the Virtus class and update with online stuff for coaching at a Catholic school.

Really? Criticizing the use of commute time is your comment? Cool. 10 hours then. Not counting time at home. Or evening meetings. Or conferences. It obviously doesn't matter to you because people who didn't choose a job to get rich should just shut up and accept the "mistake" they made. I'm glad you do your part coaching. I also have coached my son's baseball and soccer teams every year for the past six years. So, if you are already Virtus trained, just send me a private message when you want to try out teaching.

[Xville]

Really? Criticizing the use of commute time is your comment? Cool. 10 hours then. Not counting time at home. Or evening meetings. Or conferences. It obviously doesn't matter to you because people who didn't choose a job to get rich should just shut up and accept the "mistake" they made. I'm glad you do your part coaching. I also have coached my son's baseball and soccer teams every year for the past six years. So, if you are already Virtus trained, just send me a private message when you want to try out teaching.

I dont think anyone is saying you made a "mistake" or that your job isnt hard. I'm sure that it is and no way in hell I could have the patience to do it. However, you cant go into a profession knowing what you are getting yourself into, and then complain about the work, the pay. Not that I'm saying you personally are doing that. I do however hear and see that quite a bit from the teacher community.