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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    Because it’s been killing it for over the last decade?!? It’s finally normalizing (full employment w/rising interest rates). If you can’t see this, stop posting....
    He just wants his buddy Obama back...you know the only president in history that didn't have 3% annual growth in any year of his presidency and averaged under 2%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    Well the AP couldn’t give a win a win. Inflation at 2.9% is low and the Fed has raised rates. Love to see this economy with the 0% Fed Fund Rate Obama experienced...
    Yes, the AP mentioned inflation in an article about wage numbers because they couldn't give a win a win. Are you serious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    Because it’s been killing it for over the last decade?!? It’s finally normalizing (full employment w/rising interest rates). If you can’t see this, stop posting....
    You are hopeless if you can sit there and post with a straight non-trolling face that the economy is working for most people. If it was, we would have record savings for the poor and middle class (we don't), we would record low healthcare costs (we don't), and maybe it would be easy for people to live off one income (they can't). Again I ask, How is any of this working for most people???

    Fact is, costs are so high and wages are so low that most family are just eking by. Most don't have the money to handle a medium to high emergency expense, and a vast percentage would need to declare bankruptcy after a major health problem. This is an economy that is failing it's people. But hey go MAGA away and maybe you get your wall because that is the most important thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    He just wants his buddy Obama back...you know the only president in history that didn't have 3% annual growth in any year of his presidency and averaged under 2%.
    GDP growth not a reflective measure for how the economy treats the poor and middle class, especially when the gains go to the top 1%. So there is that, there is also that tricky depression that happened a year before he took office. That nasty depression where we were literally on the brink. I didn't agree with some of the things he did, but he took us off of a nasty ledge that any banking/business savvy person would see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad View Post
    You are hopeless if you can sit there and post with a straight non-trolling face that the economy is working for most people. If it was, we would have record savings for the poor and middle class (we don't), we would record low healthcare costs (we don't), and maybe it would be easy for people to live off one income (they can't). Again I ask, How is any of this working for most people???

    Fact is, costs are so high and wages are so low that most family are just eking by. Most don't have the money to handle a medium to high emergency expense, and a vast percentage would need to declare bankruptcy after a major health problem. This is an economy that is failing it's people. But hey go MAGA away and maybe you get your wall because that is the most important thing.
    Most families are not eking by. Liberal delusion at his finest.

    Poor people are poor and there will always be poor people. There are always going to be poor people, period that's the real world. Unless of course you want to go to a socialist economy? That's going really well for venezuela..

    Maybe we could go to a single payer healthcare system and add 3 trillion in taxes a year. That'd be aqesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad View Post
    GDP growth not a reflective measure for how the economy treats the poor and middle class, especially when the gains go to the top 1%. So there is that, there is also that tricky depression that happened a year before he took office. That nasty depression where we were literally on the brink. I didn't agree with some of the things he did, but he took us off of a nasty ledge that any banking/business savvy person would see.
    Justification for how poor of a president from an economic standpoint he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Most families are not eking by. Liberal delusion at his finest.

    Poor people are poor and there will always be poor people. There are always going to be poor people, period that's the real world. Unless of course you want to go to a socialist economy? That's going really well for venezuela..

    Maybe we could go to a single payer healthcare system and add 3 trillion in taxes a year. That'd be aqesome
    Why is it that the entire world can do single payer effectively, yet we can't MAGA our way to match them? That is kind of an interesting question there. Maybe we don't navigate the same circles, but the middle class families I know don't have the kind of retirement and savings they should at the ages they are. Basic things like cars, homes, food, healthcare, and upkeep for all, have all kept that down. This generation will work longer then any previous. Car loans have already started to push to the 6-7 year range, I expect home loans to increase to 40 years soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Most families are not eking by. Liberal delusion at his finest.

    Poor people are poor and there will always be poor people. There are always going to be poor people, period that's the real world.
    I don't think it has to be explained that it's about wealth distribution, not eliminating poverty. The Gini Index is at near all-time highs. I think 1929 and just before WW2 are the last times it was higher. It's been lower the majority of United States history, so I don't see why you're implying that socialism is the only way to alleviate the issue.

    And the "real world" is actually that when this happens poor people get pissed off and overthrow governments or allow authoritarians to take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caf View Post
    I don't think it has to be explained that it's about wealth distribution, not eliminating poverty. The Gini Index is at near all-time highs. I think 1929 and just before WW2 are the last times it was higher. It's been lower the majority of United States history, so I don't see why you're implying that socialism is the only way to alleviate the issue.

    And the "real world" is actually that when this happens poor people get pissed off and overthrow governments or allow authoritarians to take over.
    Thank you for outlining one of the many reasons the 2nd is in the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caf View Post
    I don't think it has to be explained that it's about wealth distribution, not eliminating poverty. The Gini Index is at near all-time highs. I think 1929 and just before WW2 are the last times it was higher. It's been lower the majority of United States history, so I don't see why you're implying that socialism is the only way to alleviate the issue.

    And the "real world" is actually that when this happens poor people get pissed off and overthrow governments or allow authoritarians to take over.
    An outdated measurement developed by a fascist. Brilliant!

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