Politics Thread

[X-band '01]

Iran sanctions and Russia sanctions are two different things.

Oh no! Not the sanctions! Sanctions are a weak approach and have been proven ineffective against Russian aggression. Putin has shown time and again that he is more than willing to let his economy be harmed to increase Russia's clout abroad. If we dropped them, literally nothing would change.

Tillerson's answers on Russia are the most comprehensive and hard lined Russia policy we've seen in decades. Specifically to your point, you're wrong because he said he supports the Magnitsky Act, and wants to keep the status quo (Obama sanctions) until a new relationship is formed. Also, he's right. It hurts our businesses and accomplishes nothing.

When would Russia and Iran be eligible for a full desaggelation?

[bobbiemcgee]

Fighting resumes in Eastern Ukraine with Russia. Wonder if trump will put the russians "on notice'. haha.

[Caf]

Actually, Russian sanctions have proven effective in depressing their economy.

Edit: It's a wait and see with this administration concerning Russia. Yes ours and the EU's sanctions have hit them hard, I will be curious to see what he and Tillerson do specifically and how it works out.

As I said, Putin doesn't care. It didn't change anything in Crimea and they meddled in the election anyway. What's the end game of depressing their economy?

[GoMuskies]

The bonfire those loonballs in Berkeley built tonight looked fun. Hope they roasted some s'mores on that bad boy.

[Juice]

The bonfire those loonballs in Berkeley built tonight looked fun. Hope they roasted some s'mores on that bad boy.

They finally proved to everyone how big of p*ssies they all are out there on that campus. If you don't agree with a speaker, here's a novel concept, don't go.

[Xville]

Actually, Russian sanctions have proven effective in depressing their economy.

Edit: It's a wait and see with this administration concerning Russia. Yes ours and the EU's sanctions have hit them hard, I will be curious to see what he and Tillerson do specifically and how it works out.

You must be a fan of alternative facts because you keep spouting this, and it is simply not true yet you keep trying to pass it off as fact. The sanctions have done very little to Russia's economy. What has hurt their economy is the fact that oil prices plummeted.

[paulxu]

Wanted to put this in Tweets You Gotta Love...but...

https://twitter.com/trumpdraws

[ArizonaXUGrad]

You must be a fan of alternative facts because you keep spouting this, and it is simply not true yet you keep trying to pass it off as fact. The sanctions have done very little to Russia's economy. What has hurt their economy is the fact that oil prices plummeted.

You need to believe the accountant here, the sanctions against some companies and areas of the Russian economy to obtain debt have effectively depressed their economy. They also have trade sanctions that prevent improving technology in key high money economic areas as well. Seriously, yes the depressed oil price is a contributing, but their inability to access capital is as well.

All of this without firing a shot, not to mention that Russia has also significantly eased its support of separatists.

[boozehound]

They finally proved to everyone how big of p*ssies they all are out there on that campus. If you don't agree with a speaker, here's a novel concept, don't go.

I agree, although I feel like people already knew how big of a bunch of p*ssies they are out there, but it's still nice to be reminded sometimes. Free speech goes both ways, and while I'm not a fan of Milo (I think he's basically just a troll, really) he isn't directly inciting violence, which is just about the only time I'm OK with attempting to limit free speech.

Don't go. If you must protest that's fine, but do it peacefully and without destruction of property.

[Caf]

You need to believe the accountant here, the sanctions against some companies and areas of the Russian economy to obtain debt have effectively depressed their economy. They also have trade sanctions that prevent improving technology in key high money economic areas as well. Seriously, yes the depressed oil price is a contributing, but their inability to access capital is as well.

All of this without firing a shot, not to mention that Russia has also significantly eased its support of separatists.

That's all fine and dandy, but what has been the result of this on Russian aggression? Do you think said sanctions would give Russia pause before annexing more of Eastern Europe?