Politics Thread

[Caf]

Let me again preface that I do not support this executive order. I do not think it was written well, addressed the real issues, or was executed properly. That being said, my overall point is that a lot of what this order does is not much different than what previous presidents have done. Why didn't any march or protest when Obama changed our policy on Cuban refugees? Why didn't anyone march when Clinton said he wanted to secure our borders to keep illegal immigrants out? Also, this "ban" is only 120 days. I think 99% of the public thinks that it's for forever, or at least until the end of the Trump presidency. Yes those 120 days can affect a lot of lives, but people need to educate themselves before they act like they know what's going on. My overall point is that this man who they call a fascist or a Nazi is doing a lot of things that prior presidents did and no one said shit.

As I said before, it's the minority religion exception which is much different than what previous Presidents have done.

[Juice]

As I said before, it's the minority religion exception which is much different than what previous Presidents have done.

The countries included in his order were chosen by Obama. Syria is mentioned once in Trump's order and the other ones weren't.

Here's the text from Obama in 2015 where he names Iraq, Syria, or other area of concern. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-...-bill/158/text

And he's an update of that law in 2016 where Obama adds Libya, Somalia, and Yemen to Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Sudan. https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/...waiver-program

[Caf]

The countries included in his order were chosen by Obama. Syria is mentioned once in Trump's order and the other ones weren't.

Here's the text from Obama in 2015 where he names Iraq, Syria, or other area of concern. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-...-bill/158/text

And he's an update of that law in 2016 where Obama adds Libya, Somalia, and Yemen to Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Sudan. https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/...waiver-program

Yup..I got that. Let's try this one more time. It's the minority religion exception which is much different than what previous Presidents have done.

(b) Upon the resumption of USRAP admissions, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, is further directed to make changes, to the extent permitted by law, to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual's country of nationality. Where necessary and appropriate, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall recommend legislation to the President that would assist with such prioritization.

(e) Notwithstanding the temporary suspension imposed pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest -- including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship -- and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.

It doesn't take a law degree to understand that exempting people who are of a minority religion in a Muslim country is the same as banning Muslims. I almost wish he had the courage to just call it what it is.

[Juice]

Yup..I got that. Let's try this one more time. It's the minority religion exception which is much different than what previous Presidents have done.





It doesn't take a law degree to understand that exempting people who are of a minority religion in a Muslim country is the same as banning Muslims. I almost wish he had the courage to just call it what it is.

No it's not. It's prioritizing Christians, Jews, and Yazidis who are persecuted in those 7 countries.

[xu82]

No it's not. It's prioritizing Christians, Jews, and Yazidis who are persecuted in those 7 countries.

How can we trust a man in Pantaloons?

[Juice]

How can we trust a man in Pantaloons?

Haha, I thought the Live Chat was a trust tree.

[xu82]

Haha, I thought the Live Chat was a trust tree.

Damn safe places! I deleted it (really) but your post remains. TAKE THAT! Now I'm just going to make shit up about your matching bunny slippers!

[xu82]

Hey, and I thought you were a lawyer! Who the hell does a lawyer trust? Have you learned nothing?

[D-West & PO-Z]

http://nypost.com/2017/01/29/america...st-after-bans/

[GoMuskies]

http://nypost.com/2017/01/29/america...st-after-bans/

How can Americans play for Iranian teams anyway? Would seem to be a sanctions issue. They must get paid by foreign (outside Iran) banks.

If you've got to be stranded, Dubai isn't an awful place to be stranded.