Is J.P. Macura Coachable?

XfansinKy · 01-17-2017, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by vee4xu

Don't disagree. B-man mentioned that it was the team's 2nd game in 48 hours and third in six days. That is certainly a factor.

Don't get me wrong, I didn't play ball near this level. What I can't and have never understood, when I was playing AAU and team summer camp ball, we played 2-3 games a day in hot boxes, and I don't remember getting winded for more than a timeout. I've never understood being in high school or college and getting tired for long. We did run suicides until some of us puked in order to get in shape, but after a few weeks we played on n off from wakeup til dark. I'm sure I'm missing something because it's not like they're faking being tired.

xufan2434 · 01-17-2017, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by XfansinKy

Don't get me wrong, I didn't play ball near this level. What I can't and have never understood, when I was playing AAU and team summer camp ball, we played 2-3 games a day in hot boxes, and I don't remember getting winded for more than a timeout. I've never understood being in high school or college and getting tired for long. We did run suicides until some of us puked in order to get in shape, but after a few weeks we played on n off from wakeup til dark. I'm sure I'm missing something because it's not like they're faking being tired.

We had this conversation last year, when I believe it was Villanova losing a day of rest between playing @ X because of a snow storm. And many argued it wouldn't affect them because these kids are in top shape. While I still don't think it did anything for them last year, it clearly did some to X yesterday. You could see Ed heavily breathing multiple times as well. And to answer your question, I think it's a lot easier to play pick up ball all day and especially AAU ball than it is to play a high level Top 25 Big East game. You can't take plays off for one, and the physicality is completely different.

That Butler game was a drain for I'm sure a lot of the guys, especially the Big 3. I mean between Ed and JP showing it, to then Tre being completely short on his last shot, I think it shows. When you spend all game basically having to have the whole team box out and battle with Patton, it's going to wear on you. And not having that good of a bench doesn't help. I'm sure they'll be getting today off to rest up

XfansinKy · 01-17-2017, 08:27 AM

I agree with that. I imagine guarding a 6'6 D1 athlete that can literally jump over you is more taxing.

**GuyFawkes38** · 01-17-2017, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by bjf123

I think you can say the same thing about Summer. It's blindingly obvious when he's going to drive the lane and our opponents are seeing it too, resulting in poor shots or turnovers. I will say to my wife while watching the game that he's not passing and going to drive. I'm right probably 90% of the time.

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I think this hits on my biggest disappointment of the year. Your description makes Sumner sound like a shooting guard or a small forward. For this year to be a success (both for Sumner's future and the team's), Sumner needed to be molded into a real point guard. I think a lot of the blame for this has to be given to the coaching staff.

On offense, it looks like our backcourt is made up of one dimensional wing players. Never thought I would say this, but I would love to have a true point guard out there like Dee Davis or Larry Austin jr. Would give the offense some needed structure.

**American X** · 01-27-2017, 07:15 AM

J.P. made absolutely wild, undisciplined shots and passes which left us with our pants down.

His stat line looks okay, but I am left to wonder if he was a net positive on the floor last night. His wild plays seemed particularly ill-timed. I thought the brick after the under 4 timeout especially hurt.

Not Myles Fox Morrissey quality.

Drew · 01-27-2017, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by American X

J.P. made absolutely wild, undisciplined shots and passes which left us with our pants down.

His stat line looks okay, but I am left to wonder if he was a net positive on the floor last night. His wild plays seemed particularly ill-timed. I thought the brick after the under 4 timeout especially hurt.

Not Myles Fox Morrissey quality.

Unfortunately, ill-timed shots and awful passes are the norm for JP this year.

bleedXblue · 01-27-2017, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Drew

Unfortunately, ill-timed shots and awful passes are the norm for JP this year.

yeah, becoming a pattern..........he is what he is........you love him one minute and you hate him the next

Backyard Champ · 01-27-2017, 09:21 AM

I am fine with JP. He had one lazy pass last night, and while that last 3 he took was quick, it almost went in. He's also the only player who plays consistently with hustle. It looks like he's the only one who cares about what's going on. I'll also say, he's the only guard who tries to take advantage of the other team when they are in foul trouble. He's far more effective at driving to the lane and getting a foul called then Ed or Tre.

He has a few rushed shots, but overall his game is very undervalued on this board.