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    Quote Originally Posted by boozehound View Post
    That's a shocker.

    Taking signed, committed, recruits out the door with you is a classy move. This just keeps getting better and better.
    Ya, didnt Sean say he was going to leave our committed recruits alone? Not sure why he would even make that comment.
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    News flash. Parrom wasn't committed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug204 View Post
    News flash. Parrom wasn't committed.
    Doug, he initially signed his LOI with X. You can't get more comitted than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug204 View Post
    News flash. Parrom wasn't committed.
    News flash....You're an idiot.

    Don't comment on things you have no idea about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug204 View Post
    News flash. Parrom wasn't committed.
    Are you serious right now? He signed an LOI to play at Xavier. How do you get more committed than that? He wasn't a verbal (which is still a committment) but he was a signed recruit.

    Nice move. You stay classy Sean Miller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z View Post
    Ya, didnt Sean say he was going to leave our committed recruits alone? Not sure why he would even make that comment.
    As we are learning, when Sean Miller says something, it doesn't mean much.
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    He asked out of his LOI. Doesn't sound like he was very committed to me.

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    Doug, thanks for joining us all the way from the University of Arizona. I look forward to your insightful and intelligent contributions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug204 View Post
    He asked out of his LOI. Doesn't sound like he was very committed to me.
    I'm going to hope and pray that you are not as stupid as you sound right now.

    If you are truly this dumb, may god have mercy on your soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC Muskie View Post
    His loss. Best of luck, but not really too much.
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    That's because they had a hall of fame coach who first took a year off and then retired. It has been a circus out there for two years.

    That being said, Arizona is generally going to get more publicity than Xavier. However, if you're in the top 25, then you make Sportscenter.
    Quote Originally Posted by Xman95 View Post
    Maybe Miller is afraid of legitimately high expectations. He left an X program that was expected to compete for the Elite 8/Final 4 next season. Never has Xavier had expectations (and they were legit) like that to START a season. There was talk he could wind up at Pitt or maybe UConn in another year or so. Both of those programs are used to the high expectations. But, instead of holding out for that type of gig, he bolts to Arizona where there's nothing. If he doesn't build it up, it could be blamed on the recent years of the program. He definitely won't be expected to see the Final 4 in the next few years. So the pressure/expectations won't be nearly as great as what he would be facing at X (or UConn, Pitt, etc.) in the near future.

    Somebody else actually brought those points up to me and, at first, I didn't think much about it. But it is possible. Plus, if Miller didn't lead X to at least the Elite 8 with its most talented team ever, would his stock drop a little? Perhaps.

    Again, this isn't my theory and I still don't really agree with it. But, the more I think about it, the possibility is there. If he gets Arizona back in contention, then bolts to a rebuilding gig for more money, then it might have more merit. Until then, it's just an off the wall theory.
    Quote Originally Posted by principal View Post
    AZWildcat - if basketball is all that matters to the kid as you imply in your post, then perhaps you have an argument. If his education matters to him, and it should because the odds of him making enough money playing basketball to support himself and presumably a family for the rest of their lives is pretty damn small, then he'd likely be better off at Xavier.

    Due to poor parenting and an even poorer educational system in this country, most kids don't come out of high school with their head's screwed on straight. Kevin may have had a decent family life and a decent high school education, but chances are he will be permitted to devote less time and attention to his schoolwork at AZ then he would have been at XU. A kid can dodge his education at any university to a degree, he can do just enough to get by. But he would have had more accountability at XU than AZ. More accountability equals more likelihood of success.

    But even if we are talking basketball, the verdict is out as to who will have more success over the next 4 years. Presumably if Miller can do what he did at XU (an E8 and S16 over a two year period w/o being able to recruit the best players in the country), he should be able to do more at AZ. But who knows? Maybe he doesn't get the players Lute used to get, maybe he does. Maybe Sean's strength is not controlling the egos of 5 Star "me first" recruits? Perhaps he will have no idea how to control a bunch of teenagers when they are not forced into certain behavior patterns by the AZ administration. In addition, we have know idea who XU will pick up. Right now the 2009 and 2010 classes aren't looking great at XU...but maybe they will look pretty good 1 year from now. AZ isn't exactly on top of the recruiting world. I mean, their top prospects are from a lowly little mid-major school in Cincinnati, Ohio, right?

    If this kid is smart he won't go to AZ, he'll go somewhere where he can get an education and be assured of a future regardless of what happens to his basketball career. If the kid has a career ending injury during his first year or two in AZ, what happens to him? I know what would happen at X because I have seen it with my own eyes. I don't blame Parrom for de-committing from X. Right or wrong, smart or stupid, he was coming here for Miller (maybe he was a Book guy too). There is nothing wrong with that. If he is smart, he'll choose a place with a coach he likes and a commitment to his development as a human being, not just a commitment to what he can do for their athletic program.

    His call, quite possibly his loss.

    Yes, they're both making terrible choices. What are they thinking?

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