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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

There’s no requirement so why are we belaboring it. I wouldn’t release mine. There’s no point.

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We as a voter base sort of decide the rules based on what we are willing to tolerate, don't we? I'd argue that what we chose to tolerate over time is important. As we continue to lower the bar we open ourselves up to more risk in terms of who we elect to be President. That seems at least a little important.

Maybe Trump didn't have anything to hide. Will the next guy be the same? What about the one after that?

I asked why don't you care, and I'm not sure you answered the question, unless the answer simply is 'there is no requirement' with no further thought given? If that is the case, I would mention that there are many thing not explicitly forbidden for a Presidential candidate that we probably shouldn't start to tolerate as a Nation. I'm pretty sure that there is no requirement saying a convicted pedophile can't run for President, but it's going to be a major issue for me as a voter.

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Originally Posted by boozehound

We as a voter base sort of decide the rules based on what we are willing to tolerate, don't we? I'd argue that what we chose to tolerate over time is important. As we continue to lower the bar we open ourselves up to more risk in terms of who we elect to be President. That seems at least a little important.

Maybe Trump didn't have anything to hide. Will the next guy be the same? What about the one after that?

I asked why don't you care, and I'm not sure you answered the question, unless the answer simply is 'there is no requirement' with no further thought given? If that is the case, I would mention that there are many thing not explicitly forbidden for a Presidential candidate that we probably shouldn't start to tolerate as a Nation. I'm pretty sure that there is no requirement saying a convicted pedophile can't run for President, but it's going to be a major issue for me as a voter.

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I don’t care because I’m not into crime phishing. It only gives people something to complain about. Also, one or some of his taxes were released and he paid more money in a year than most people make in a lifetime. So, no I don’t care because he pays a ton of taxes.

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I don’t care because I’m not into crime phishing. It only gives people something to complain about. Also, one or some of his taxes were released and he paid more money in a year than most people make in a lifetime. So, no I don’t care because he pays a ton of taxes.

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I just find it interesting why he would tell the public that he would have no problem making his tax record public during the whole Obama citizenship debate and now he is fighting it to the Supreme Court. I just don’t get why he would say he would do something and then backtrack. Seems like a shady thing to do. I would take it a step further and have every member of Congress be made to release their tax records.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

I believe he has been given no choice but to release them to the US attorney in NY.

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How long after that until the New York Times has them above the fold?


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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

What else was Trump supposed to do to NK short of attacking them?

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Send then AF I.

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Originally Posted by xuphan

I just find it interesting why he would tell the public that he would have no problem making his tax record public during the whole Obama citizenship debate and now he is fighting it to the Supreme Court. I just don’t get why he would say he would do something and then backtrack. Seems like a shady thing to do. I would take it a step further and have every member of Congress be made to release their tax records.

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That's one of his signature moves. I believe that back in the day he was known to publicly claim charitable donations that didn't always actually happen. In this case I think that he said he would release his tax returns when he didn't think he was actually going to get the nomination. Then he did, but decided not to because there is something there he didn't want people to see.

At this point I don't really care about personally seeing Trump's tax returns, but I don't really want that norm destroyed for future candidates because it hurts our ability as a public to thoroughly vet them.

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Originally Posted by boozehound

I'm honestly curious as to why some people don't care. .

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I just don't give a shit. It has never mattered to me and never will. The same way some people care about certain social issues and others don't. We all have priorities and things that matter to us when it comes to how we align ourselves politically. Tax returns ring hollow to me.

I prefer to have a POTUS who is not a tax cheat. At various times, he said he would release his returns. He lied, of course, and now the SCOTUS has to do it for him.

Do you really think he's a tax cheat and IRS hasn't caught him yet? I honestly think he isn't as good as a business man and he doesn't want that out there for everyone to know. And at that point I could care less as well what they show

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Originally Posted by xuwillie

Do you really think he's a tax cheat and IRS hasn't caught him yet? I honestly think he isn't as good as a business man and he doesn't want that out there for everyone to know. And at that point I could care less as well what they show

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Aren't they investigating this now? I thought part of the NY case was that he would value assets differently when tryin to obtain a loan vs filing his tax return.

Also, I believe the IRS audit is related to a $72 million tax refund he claimed. And in true IRS fashion they cut him a $72 million refund check and then were like, wait a minute this doesn't seem right. I mean I would investigate and then cut the check, but that's just me.

I really think he didn't want to release them because he's not as wealthy as he claims to be. I'll let those investigating be the judge.