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    Hugley commits to Duquesne. Injuries just too much for him, or a complete lack of confidence? Hope he does well his last year but man did he drop off from that year at pitt

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    Quote Originally Posted by xudash View Post
    The four big conference commissioners were on Fox this evening with Brett Baier. All four of them I believe we’re calling for the United States Congress to step in, citing that this complete mess cannot continue if things are defined and governed at the state level.

    It probably will take a season or two, but maybe this will get cleaned up to some degree at some point.
    So, we are waiting and hoping that the government eventually steps up and saves us. That is not very comforting, to be honest.

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    I’ve been a fan since the early 1970’s, when I started HS and really started paying attention to college sports. I’ve followed both major college programs in Cincinnati. I’m not one that loves one and hates the others. I’ve attended both universities, worn the uniform of both, and attended sporting events of all types at both schools. My heart is with X, as is my diploma, but I enjoy watching both schools.

    I do find that my emotional connection with the players is definitely waning. I’ll still watch the games. I’ll still read the boards and take an interest in what’s going on with the teams. But, unlike the players that I attended classes with, or got to know over their multiyear stints on campus, these players that come for a year and then leave I feel I have no connection with. I’ve become much more of a “casual” type fan, emotionally. Attending or watching games on TV, either at X or elsewhere, has become more of a social or entertainment activity. I certainly no longer live and die with each victory or loss, like once did.

    Part of that is just getting old(er) and having sat through 50+ seasons. But part of it is certainly the changes that have occurred, and are still occurring, to the whole college sports world. I’ve never had the emotional attachment to the players of the Reds and Bengals that I’ve had to players from the colleges that I have proudly attended. But I’m getting to point where I don’t see much difference between either group.

    Having said that…I do find it interesting to watch how Pitino is building a roster via the portal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Hugley commits to Duquesne. Injuries just too much for him, or a complete lack of confidence? Hope he does well his last year but man did he drop off from that year at pitt
    I feel like maybe it’s more the injuries taking a toll. If there is one thing big John doesn’t lack, it’s confidence!
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    Quote Originally Posted by XUGRAD80 View Post
    I’ve been a fan since the early 1970’s, when I started HS and really started paying attention to college sports. I’ve followed both major college programs in Cincinnati. I’m not one that loves one and hates the others. I’ve attended both universities, worn the uniform of both, and attended sporting events of all types at both schools. My heart is with X, as is my diploma, but I enjoy watching both schools.

    I do find that my emotional connection with the players is definitely waning. I’ll still watch the games. I’ll still read the boards and take an interest in what’s going on with the teams. But, unlike the players that I attended classes with, or got to know over their multiyear stints on campus, these players that come for a year and then leave I feel I have no connection with. I’ve become much more of a “casual” type fan, emotionally. Attending or watching games on TV, either at X or elsewhere, has become more of a social or entertainment activity. I certainly no longer live and die with each victory or loss, like once did.

    Part of that is just getting old(er) and having sat through 50+ seasons. But part of it is certainly the changes that have occurred, and are still occurring, to the whole college sports world. I’ve never had the emotional attachment to the players of the Reds and Bengals that I’ve had to players from the colleges that I have proudly attended. But I’m getting to point where I don’t see much difference between either group.

    Having said that…I do find it interesting to watch how Pitino is building a roster via the portal.
    I am wondering if your feelings/attitude may be widespread among the Muskie faithful. According to some XU has one of the oldest base of season ticket holders in the BE. If many hundreds are like you, what does this say for AFO contributions, season ticket sales and NIL monies going forward? Will the older (and possibly more affluent) choose to stay home and watch games on TV? Or, will a new generation of very affluent grads/supporters step up and provide needed dollars? Any insights?

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    Tre is on his official today...may hear something on him the next couple of days. Do we hear one way or another on Pozzatto today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xu82 View Post
    So, we are waiting and hoping that the government eventually steps up and saves us. That is not very comforting, to be honest.
    There's next to 0 chance that any bill regarding college athletics gets through Congress -- the Title IX politics alone would kill anything from getting enough support to pass a filibuster.

    The good news is that I expect most, if not all, of the individual state laws governing NIL and college athletics to get struck down as clear violations of the Commerce Clause. It just will take a while for those to move through the court.

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    Interesting take. There are a lot of people thinking the bill is extremely likely to pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by atljar View Post
    Interesting take. There are a lot of people thinking the bill is extremely likely to pass
    The House v. NCAA settlement is very, very likely to be adopted by the federal courts -- but that's a federal court decision just on the aspects of if the NCAA regulations on athlete payment amount to anti-trust violations. It doesn't touch the portal or other things everyone wants to be more regulated.

    Getting an act of Congress through regulating all things transfer portal, NIL and revenue sharing would likely require an anti-trust exemption being granted to the NCAA and some kind of clarification / carve out of Title IX for revenue share payments. Right now that's an incredibly gray area that the previous Presidential administration's DOE/DOJ thought would be an impediment to revenue share. There's a body of legal scholars and activists who believe male and female athletes should be paid the same in all circumstances (some even extend this to the pro game as well, which is bananas). As it stands right now, one of the first lawsuits that will be filed when the House settlement is approved will be to challenge revenue share on the basis of discriminatory treatment of female athletes (since the overwhelming majority of revenue share dollars will be going to football and men's basketball, where ther revenue is primarily generated).

    Getting a legislative fix would require that to be addressed -- and you don't need to follow politics closely right now to know that Title IX is an insanely hot-button issue and you'll have a strong minority (if not majority) of people in the Senate who absolutely will not touch Title IX right now, especially not in a way that treats female athletes as anything less than equal to male athletes in terms of pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoopster68 View Post
    I am wondering if your feelings/attitude may be widespread among the Muskie faithful. According to some XU has one of the oldest base of season ticket holders in the BE. If many hundreds are like you, what does this say for AFO contributions, season ticket sales and NIL monies going forward? Will the older (and possibly more affluent) choose to stay home and watch games on TV? Or, will a new generation of very affluent grads/supporters step up and provide needed dollars? Any insights?
    I’m also class of 80 and feel the same as XUGRAD80. The connection with the mercenary players of today just isn’t there. I really enjoyed watching the kids develop over their 3-4 year career at X. That won’t happen in the NIL era as currently in effect. Given that X has already said that ticket prices and AFO required contributions are going up, I’m seriously considering not renewing. The amount of the increase will probably be the deciding factor. And this is after upgrading my seats last year to be 8 rows from the floor.


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