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  1. #411
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    Quote Originally Posted by MHettel View Post
    Glad we got a guy but this is a little underwhelming. Kinda like the Foster commitment last years. We needed so much and he just didn’t address any of it. Turned out ok. But it seemed odd that our first move was to grab a depth piece.

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    I mean. We have 2 (now 3) guys. Do you expect big numbers from 13 newcomers? lol. He started almost every game for an at large team that beat Marquette and gave MSU a great game. Seems like a good rotation/culture piece. But at some point, you need 12 guys. Be prepared that not all of them are going to be great.

    Kind of a weird comparison to foster though, he started every game. Wasn’t bad, wasn’t great, but was the best player in the biggest game. So with a roster size of 2, I’d take a foster level output right now.

  2. #412
    Quote Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z View Post
    I mean I guess that could happen (as it does at times in normal jobs, or could in pro sports as well) but at least from all the Xavier guys you see each one retweeting liking and congratulating all their teammates when they enter the portal and when they sign on elsewhere.

    Just seems like another worst case scenario people drum up about NIL that I have yet to see come to fruition, or certainly not much. Haven’t heard of any examples.
    What the fuck!?

    Did you just say what you said? Another worst case scenario about NIL that hasnt come true?

    What fucking world are you living in?

    I was the ultimate alarmist about NIL and the Portal and even I’m shocked at how quickly it has rocked this game.

    It has all come to fruition. It’s a fucking disaster. Are you just fucking dumb, or perpetually optimistic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier View Post
    I mean. We have 2 (now 3) guys. Do you expect big numbers from 13 newcomers? lol. He started almost every game for an at large team that beat Marquette and gave MSU a great game. Seems like a good rotation/culture piece. But at some point, you need 12 guys. Be prepared that not all of them are going to be great.

    Kind of a weird comparison to foster though, he started every game. Wasn’t bad, wasn’t great, but was the best player in the biggest game. So with a roster size of 2, I’d take a foster level output right now.
    was Foster supposed to be a starter? Assuming Traore was available, suddenly we have Hunter, Swain and Foster as potential starters at 3. my guess is that he was meant to be a sixth man.

    Foster was the first guy we got. at the time we had lost Q, and still had Claude. we needed shooting deperately. foster was not at all what we needed…at that time. later, dez left and conwell showd up and fosters fit made more sense. good pick up, but not my priority.

    lets land our priority guys. scoring guard & scoring big

  4. #414
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    We need a roster. We have 2 guys and you’re saying we really shouldn’t be looking for a 6th man type like Foster, who turned out to be a reliable starter. You can’t just tell rotational pieces to hold off with a roster size of 2. Seems weird at this point you’re turning down in your opinion a foster type: a 6th man who can be a reliable starter. We have two guys! lol

    Plus, you kind make my point for me. We got foster when you think we shouldn’t have because the fit was off and he would be a 6th man. Once roster filled out, he turned out to be a good fit after all. Why can’t that be the same for what’s going on here?
    Last edited by Xavier; 04-02-2025 at 04:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHettel View Post
    What the fuck!?

    Did you just say what you said? Another worst case scenario about NIL that hasnt come true?

    What fucking world are you living in?

    I was the ultimate alarmist about NIL and the Portal and even I’m shocked at how quickly it has rocked this game.

    It has all come to fruition. It’s a fucking disaster. Are you just fucking dumb, or perpetually optimistic?
    Is every professional team or workplace in your world a place where all anybody does is worry about how much money they are making, and how much money their teammates/workmates are making?

  6. #416
    I believe that Pitino wants strong DEFENSIVE players who love to play BB, first and foremost as his highest priorities. From what I’ve heard him say, or have heard attributed to him, those 2 attributes are his highest priorities. Not shooting. Not scoring. So I expect him to recruit players based not on their points per game, but on how he thinks they will fit into HIS system. Not the “let it fly” system we have seen the last 20 years. Not how they can play packline defense. But how they can play pressure on the ball defense. With defense creating offense. Look at Houston and look at SJU if you want to see what Xavier BB is going to look like, and what kind of players Pitino is going to recruit. Don’t even look at ppg averages. It’s a new world.
    Last edited by XUGRAD80; 04-02-2025 at 06:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XUGRAD80 View Post
    I believe that Pitino wants strong DEFENSIVE players, who love to play BB first and foremost, as his highest priorities. From what I’ve heard him say, or have heard attributed to him, those 2 attributes are his highest priorities. Not shooting. Not scoring. So I expect him to recruit players based not on their points per game, but on how he thinks they will fit into HIS system. Not the “let it fly” system we have seen the last 20 years. Not how they can play packline defense. But how they can play pressure on the ball defense. With defense creating offense. Look at Houston and look at SJU if you want to see what Xavier BB is going to look like, and what kind of players Pitino is going to recruit. Don’t even look at ppg averages. It’s a new world.
    Agree with all of this. I don’t foresee us signing a bunch of guys with eye popping numbers. It’s going to be a real team build.

    And not surprised by hetts comments. The guy posts something positive once a decade.

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    The more I read about try Washington, the more I want him. He’s a lockdown defender and he can handle the ball. Not the best shooter but he’s improved in that aspect. He’d be a really nice get

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    this dude was visiting yesterday. I like just how many big guys we are going after. It is desperately needed, and glad to see that it's a point of emphasis for this staff:

    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...thony-robinson

    Again, not eye popping numbers by any means, but young, a top 100 guy and someone that X can hopefully develop if he were to come here.

    Garnering interest from Kansas, Notre Dame and Miami among others.

  10. #420
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    Quote Originally Posted by MHettel View Post
    I wonder what the locker room dynamic is nowadays.

    Assume you have a team that accomplished quite a bit with a young roster that can return. Several guys want their “number”. There is only so much to go around. A couple guys get what they want and a couple guys leave to get what they want. But a couple other just accept a lower number to stay with the team. And then a couple new guys come in making as much or more as the 2 guys that got paid and absolutely more than the couple guys that stayed for a lower number.

    6-7 guys fighting for 5 starting spots. Another 1-2 guys trying to get into the rotation.

    A bunch of 20 year old kids, even trying the hardest, can’t avoid having that devolve in a toxic mess.
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