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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    Did Drake bring back anyone last year? They won 34 games?
    Not sure. I know they had several D2 players from the coaches last school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Not a surprise because his coach left. X has the money....two things at play here though...could end up at Texas with Miller and 2.) his brother goes to UC who he lives with. He'd instantly be one of the worst villians in Xavier college basketball lore if he makes that switch. I'd sincerely hope he wouldn't do that.
    Rumor is IU which would make sense for him at approx $1.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Man I hope we get a couple of "average" guys like Foster and Maddox for the team this year...ya know the guys that shot 41 and 40% from 3, Traore a guy that averaged a double double, and Conwell an all Big East player. Maybe Pitino should take a vacation now.
    Ha, right?

    Of too Italy with ya Richard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEHARDI View Post
    Rumor is IU which would make sense for him at approx $1.5.
    No idea how accurate these numbers are (my guess is, somewhat inflated by the agents) but if you told me I could have Conwell at 1.5 or two players who were at 750,000, give me the 2 guys at 750 all day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z View Post
    No idea how accurate these numbers are (my guess is, somewhat inflated by the agents) but if you told me I could have Conwell at 1.5 or two players who were at 750,000, give me the 2 guys at 750 all day.
    I agree. Conwell is a heck of a player in that he can shoot lights out, but can anyone else tell me something he does well? Not saying the guy is Brad Redford, but i'd like maybe a more well rounded player that maybe shoots 35%, can play some d and not miss bunny after bunny at the rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z View Post
    Calipari (a lot more money I know) had 0 players and was a late game collapse away from the Elite 8.

    I posted before, 44% of 1st year power conference head coaches in the NIL/portal era make the NCAA tourney in their first year. I don't know all of them off the top of my head but I am sure some had more resources than X and some had less and some had complete roster turnover and some retained some players.

    I swear some people act like X is some little sisters of the poor program. Don't let all the talking down Miller has done to make himself look better about bolting cloud where the program really is.

    I am not saying we will be a tournament team next year. I am saying Pitino will field a competitive team or he wasn't the right hire.
    It's a unique situation this year too because it is -- theoretically -- the last year of booster-paid NIL. If the settlement goes through in the House case, starting next year athlete comp will be handled via revenue sharing and all NIL deals will go through a third-party clearinghouse to ensure it reflects FMV and not simply pay-to-play from boosters.

    Now, I'm skeptical that the settlement is going to actually hold up, but there's some chatter out there that money is gonna be stupid this year to get players into buildings ahead of the restrictions going into effect.

    Point being, it could be a lot more difficult to shop for a roster THIS year than it will be in future years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat View Post
    It's a unique situation this year too because it is -- theoretically -- the last year of booster-paid NIL. If the settlement goes through in the House case, starting next year athlete comp will be handled via revenue sharing and all NIL deals will go through a third-party clearinghouse to ensure it reflects FMV and not simply pay-to-play from boosters.

    Now, I'm skeptical that the settlement is going to actually hold up, but there's some chatter out there that money is gonna be stupid this year to get players into buildings ahead of the restrictions going into effect.

    Point being, it could be a lot more difficult to shop for a roster THIS year than it will be in future years.
    I have not heard that theory or thought about that but fair enough and if true point taken on this year being unique. Not 100% sure why getting them in the building matters if they can enter the portal without restriction again the following year, other than I guess maybe better chance of retaining them if the money will be similar everywhere?

    How is FMV determined for an individual player?
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z View Post
    I have not heard that theory or thought about that but fair enough and if true point taken on this year being unique. Not 100% sure why getting them in the building matters if they can enter the portal without restriction again the following year, other than I guess maybe better chance of retaining them if the money will be similar everywhere?

    How is FMV determined for an individual player?
    There's a lot of uncertainty and we may get some clarity in the next few days since there's another court date to approve the settlement on 4/7/25.

    My understanding is that FMV is determined based on review of other similar deals, market conditions, etc. The idea is to prevent a QB from being signed up to be a spokesperson for a company that does 0 marketing and getting paid $500,000 for existing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z View Post
    No idea how accurate these numbers are (my guess is, somewhat inflated by the agents) but if you told me I could have Conwell at 1.5 or two players who were at 750,000, give me the 2 guys at 750 all day.
    $1.5 is excessive but he was 41% from 3 , 51% from 2 (and got to hoop and finished much better as the season went on) 83% from line and average 2.5 assists a game. Super productive all around. He will make at least $1M somewhere. With all the needs, it was going to be tough to give him what he is looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z View Post
    I have not heard that theory or thought about that but fair enough and if true point taken on this year being unique. Not 100% sure why getting them in the building matters if they can enter the portal without restriction again the following year, other than I guess maybe better chance of retaining them if the money will be similar everywhere?

    How is FMV determined for an individual player?
    Maybe you saw this already, but someone posted this article a few days ago. It (sort of) describes the FMV component, and what’s to come in general.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/college-bas...130005097.html
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