Xavier Head Coaching Search 2025

[Section 200]

[QUOTE=drudy23;801213]

This attitude is where declines start.

When "we're a University first, our jobs is to educate" becomes the narrative to cover up athletic mis-steps. Scary narrative to hold onto. It's almost always a way to save face for failures.

What missteps are being covered up? The courts allowed unlimited free agency and immediate transfer eligibility. Xavier took a risk and hired Miller - we got a sweet sixteen and a tourney bid and a bunch of publicity. Yes Texas has money than Xavier. Texas probably has the most money of all universities to spend. What was Xavier supposed to do?

[CP05XU08CU13]

Adding a med school should help Xavier, but the running joke while I was at Creighton law school was that that law students paid for the dental and medical schools. Takes a lot more money to educate doctors and dentists than lawyers. I never thought Miller was going to finish his career at Xavier. He was waiting for the right opportunity, and he knows if he wants a chance to compete for national championships then he needs to be a a bigger school with more NIL money. Yes, it sucks, but Xavier needs to get creative. How do you explain the continued success of Gonzaga? Small Jesuit school in Spokane. Marquette has been improving as well. Pretty sure Shaka Smart left Texas to go to Marquette. I think Xavier is desirable job for the right coach. It may not be a destination job for a lot, but should still be able
To bring in a decent coach.

[drudy23]

[QUOTE=Section 200;801220]

What missteps are being covered up? The courts allowed unlimited free agency and immediate transfer eligibility. Xavier took a risk and hired Miller - we got a sweet sixteen and a tourney bid and a bunch of publicity. Yes Texas has money than Xavier. Texas probably has the most money of all universities to spend. What was Xavier supposed to do?

What missteps?

We've been irrelevant for the most part of the last 8 seasons. We've made the tournament twice in 8 years! A coaching hire that set the program back at least 5 years, probably more.

An administration that can't retain coaches. You don't think Miller had conversations with his bosses before all of this went down???

[xukeith]

Adding a med school should help Xavier, but the running joke while I was at Creighton law school was that that law students paid for the dental and medical schools. Takes a lot more money to educate doctors and dentists than lawyers. I never thought Miller was going to finish his career at Xavier. He was waiting for the right opportunity, and he knows if he wants a chance to compete for national championships then he needs to be a a bigger school with more NIL money. Yes, it sucks, but Xavier needs to get creative. How do you explain the continued success of Gonzaga? Small Jesuit school in Spokane. Marquette has been improving as well. Pretty sure Shaka Smart left Texas to go to Marquette. I think Xavier is desirable job for the right coach. It may not be a destination job for a lot, but should still be able
To bring in a decent coach.

Best post of the day.

[SkyWalker]

[QUOTE=drudy23;801215][QUOTE=Xville;801212]

It's amazing how people don't realize the impact basketball has had on this university.

Xavier basketball has had an immense impact on this university. I graduated in '79. Remember the Tay Baker years. How about Xavier(OH)? Stack, Gillen, Prosser, Matta, Miller, Mack, and Miller put Xavier on the map. I fear NIL and the transfer portal may push Xavier back to the Tay Baker era. It looks that the way this is going.

[drudy23]

[QUOTE=SkyWalker;801225][QUOTE=drudy23;801215]

Xavier basketball has had an immense impact on this university. I graduated in '79. Remember the Tay Baker years. How about Xavier(OH)? Stack, Gillen, Prosser, Matta, Miller, Mack, and Miller put Xavier on the map. I fear NIL and the transfer portal may put Xavier back to the Tay Baker era. It looks that the way this is going.

As others have mentioned, the university is a boring commuter Midwest liberal arts college without the spotlight brought on it.

Basketball elevated it.

[bjf123]

I’m afraid we’re going to become a revolving door for head coaches going forward. They’ll be here for a few years, have a little success, and jump at the first chance to go to a Power 4 conference and big NIL bucks. The only way out of this is if Congress gets involved and allows some kind of salary cap / anti trust exemption to exist. As long as schools can spend whatever they want, we can’t compete on a consistent basis. The players are nothing more than mercenaries. The days of watching a player grow from a tentative freshman to a dominating senior for their school is gone.


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[GoMuskies]

We were a revolving door for coaches before. It's just that they actually accomplished something before leaving prior to Steele and Miller 2.0. I'm all for another procession of winners leaving for higher paying gigs compared to the bullshit of the last 8 years.

[Section 200]

I’m afraid we’re going to become a revolving door for head coaches going forward. They’ll be here for a few years, have a little success, and jump at the first chance to go to a Power 4 conference and big NIL bucks. The only way out of this is if Congress gets involved and allows some kind of salary cap / anti trust exemption to exist. As long as schools can spend whatever they want, we can’t compete on a consistent basis. The players are nothing more than mercenaries. The days of watching a player grow from a tentative freshman to a dominating senior for their school is gone.


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Absolutely true - but haven’t we always been a revolving door for coaches? We have lost coaches to Providence, Wake Forest, Ohio State, Arizona, Louisville and now Texas in my lifetime. Notice the last few - elite of the elite programs with tons of cash. That’s fine with me as long as we keep winning. I’d much happier being in the NCAA tourney with the great win over Texas vs having Wes Miller and going to the Crown. Yes when our coaches win they get a chance to earn life changing money. Let’s go hire the next guy that will do that. Makes the Xavier job very enticing for ambitious coaches.

[sirthought]

Skip Prosser would be rolling in his grave over the state of things here...all the way to Wake Forrest.