Politics Thread

**xubrew** · 02-24-2025, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

The UN passed a resolution today condemning the war in Ukraine and calling for a return of Ukraine's territory.

Russia, North Korea, Iran...and the United States voted against the resolution.

MAGA.

Yeah, we need to be condemning this. How much we should involve ourselves is fair to debate, but to not even condemn the invasion of a sovereign nation by Russia is absurd. If you're not condemning it, then it's as though you're condoning it.

**GoMuskies** · 02-24-2025, 02:36 PM

I'm not sure who's more excited about Trump being President at this point, Lou or paul. It seems to give both of them a reason to get up in the morning.

**paulxu** · 02-24-2025, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by xubrew

Now, it's fair to ask why Elon Musk is that new boss and why he suddenly has this type of access and authority?? Sure. I think it's a little strange that he was given the role that he was given. But to take issue with someone who's new to being in charge that simply wants to know what everyone does seems a little overly sensitive to me.

In a court filing by the government, it notes Musk has NO authority to make decisions, and he is not part of DOGE, or it's administrator.
OPM had earlier sent an email to all government employees that there was no requirement to respond to their emails.
Can you imagine the confusion of 2+ million federal workers that are threatened with automatic resignation if the fail to answer.
Would you want to work for that sort of organization?

Plus, many agencies in the government (including the Judiciary Branch) are telling their employees to ignore the request.
I have nothing against new people. I would only like to see some experience in critical positions, and some coordination.
But they are following the Bannon playbook of flooding the zone with shit. And it's not a good way to run the government.

**xubrew** · 02-24-2025, 02:40 PM

Can you imagine the confusion of 2+ million federal workers that are threatened with automatic resignation if the fail to answer.
Would you want to work for that sort of organization?

Perhaps you're asking the wrong person. I can imagine exactly what that is like. I've belonged to some incredibly disorganized organizations. The courts say one thing. The leadership within your organization says something else. Yeah...I know EXACTLY what that is like!!

XU_Lou · 02-24-2025, 03:22 PM

New Harvard/Harris poll:

67% of voters say the current level of U.S. federal government debt is unsustainable.

83% of voters favor reducing government expenditures over increasing taxes, and 77% say a full examination of all government expenditures is necessary.

70% of voters say government expenditures are filled with waste, fraud, and inefficiency (Democrats: 58%; Republicans: 78%; Independents: 75%), and 69% support the goal of cutting $1 trillion of government expenditures.

60% of voters think DOGE is helping make major cuts in government expenditures.

72% of voters say they want Ukraine to negotiate a settlement with Russia instead of winning the war. 60% of voters favor Trump announcing direct U.S.-Russia negotiations (Democrats: 40%; Republicans: 85%; Independents: 53%).

https://harvardharrispoll.com/press-...february-2025/

hoopster68 · 02-24-2025, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by xubrew

Yeah, we need to be condemning this. How much we should involve ourselves is fair to debate, but to not even condemn the invasion of a sovereign nation by Russia is absurd. If you're not condemning it, then it's as though you're condoning it.

+1

**Strange Brew** · 02-24-2025, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

Natalie Bara, president of the FBI Agents Association, wrote in an internal newsletter to members sent Sunday before Bongino’s selection was announced that Patel had agreed during a January meeting with her that the FBI deputy director “should continue to be an on-board, active Special Agent as has been the case for 117 years for many compelling reasons, including operational expertise and experience, as well as the trust of our Special Agent population.”

Not sure a let-go Fox personality pod caster fits that promise. Then again, why would you ever trust Kash Patel. You need to be smarter than that.

Annnnd a former Secret Service agent. Keep 'em coming Paul.

**Strange Brew** · 02-24-2025, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

The UN passed a resolution today condemning the war in Ukraine and calling for a return of Ukraine's territory.

Russia, North Korea, Iran...and the United States voted against the resolution.

MAGA.

Neat. What an excellent use of time. I guess they needed to take a break from all of the wonderful "work" they do around the World. Glad we fund the UN and house them on our shores.

BTW, Russian invasion bad. NATO trying to bring Ukraine into NATO. Also bad.