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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdiggins View Post
    The goal should be maintaining Title IX compliance while we pump money to the men's program.
    Agree to disagree then. Having a good women's team helps everyone, especially the men's team. It helps in corporate money, branding, marketing etc. Also, considering that the women's tournament now distributes money like the men's tournament, it's even more important. Not sure if you've noticed, but women's sports at the college level are growing like crazy especially when it comes to basketball and volleyball. To not capitalize on that growth is malpractice imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Agree to disagree then. Having a good women's team helps everyone, especially the men's team. It helps in corporate money, branding, marketing etc. Also, considering that the women's tournament now distributes money like the men's tournament, it's even more important. Not sure if you've noticed, but women's sports at the college level are growing like crazy especially when it comes to basketball and volleyball. To not capitalize on that growth is malpractice imo.
    Xavier's current net ranking in women's basketball is 267. Here are the other teams ranked 260-275:

    Stony Brook
    Bryant
    Western Carolina
    South Dakota
    Western Michigan
    Detroit Mercy
    Xavier
    Omaha
    Loyola (Maryland)
    Binghamton
    Florida International
    Jackson State
    Robert Morris
    New Jersey Tech
    North Alabama
    Samford

    Color me skeptical, but I have a hard time believing Xavier is so poor that it can't be better than that list of schools even by doing nothing but leaning on the facilities and air travel (would bet all of the others above bus to games). I have a hard time believing schools like Providence and Seton Hall are pumping huge amounts of cash to fund their women's programs, yet they continue to beat us over and over again.

    If we're that poor, maybe the university should fold. I also understand there are a large section of fans -- particularly, I'm willing to bet, old men -- who seem to enjoy the women's program being bad. But there is no excuse for it to be as bad as it's been while GC has been here, and it's embarrassing.

    As for next year, the two recruits announced are from Senegal and New Zealand. The coaching staff really has no connections to the area, other than the recruiting coordinator being picked up from the previous UC coach's staff when she was fired two years ago.
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    I want the women's team to be good, but I'll admit that as long as they're going to be bad I'm going to find some amusement in how absurdly, almost impossibly bad they actually are. I mean, one would almost have to TRY to be terrible to be THIS bad at a power conference program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    I want the women's team to be good, but I'll admit that as long as they're going to be bad I'm going to find some amusement in how absurdly, almost impossibly bad they actually are. I mean, one would almost have to TRY to be terrible to be THIS bad at a power conference program.
    Oh, I agree. I think it's genuinely almost as difficult to have elite success as it is to be this bad. Based on the coaching hires, scheduling, all of it, it seems like they are trying to be this bad. It's one of the reasons I've continued to pay attention the past 20 years. Train wreck.

    For the fan's of the men's program (of which I am, too), I will warn you: If we have to replace Sean Miller at some point, GC's track record of hiring basketball coaches of either gender is abysmal, even going back to his days at BG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomerCecil View Post
    Xavier's current net ranking in women's basketball is 267. Here are the other teams ranked 260-275:

    Stony Brook
    Bryant
    Western Carolina
    South Dakota
    Western Michigan
    Detroit Mercy
    Xavier
    Omaha
    Loyola (Maryland)
    Binghamton
    Florida International
    Jackson State
    Robert Morris
    New Jersey Tech
    North Alabama
    Samford

    Color me skeptical, but I have a hard time believing Xavier is so poor that it can't be better than that list of schools even by doing nothing but leaning on the facilities and air travel (would bet all of the others above bus to games). I have a hard time believing schools like Providence and Seton Hall are pumping huge amounts of cash to fund their women's programs, yet they continue to beat us over and over again.

    If we're that poor, maybe the university should fold. I also understand there are a large section of fans -- particularly, I'm willing to bet, old men -- who seem to enjoy the women's program being bad. But there is no excuse for it to be as bad as it's been while GC has been here, and it's embarrassing.

    As for next year, the two recruits announced are from Senegal and New Zealand. The coaching staff really has no connections to the area, other than the recruiting coordinator being picked up from the previous UC coach's staff when she was fired two years ago.
    I don't want them to be bad; however, I am certainly not going to advocate replacing the AD because they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdiggins View Post
    I don't want them to be bad; however, I am certainly not going to advocate replacing the AD because they are.
    No, but it's a bit of a cherry on top of our men's program going to shit in the last 7 years.

    And I don't really see the rest of the athletics program knocking it out of the park. Baseball is doing nicely for what it is. Men's soccer was doing well for a bit (not anymore). The women were good for a while but didn't end up in the tournament. Others?

    Looks like men's golf is off to a nice start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdiggins View Post
    I don't want them to be bad; however, I am certainly not going to advocate replacing the AD because they are.
    I have never advocated for replacing the AD because of the women's basketball program. However, I certainly can bring up how historically incompetent the program has been under his watch. The worst stretch of power conference basketball in NCAA history, to put it succinctly.

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    There is no reason why X shouldn’t try to be good in EVERY sport they compete in. Including WBB.

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