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    This is where metrics make zero sense to me. Is it because they played 9 q4 teams? Looks like they only had one bad loss all year

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    Quote Originally Posted by xuwillie View Post
    This is where metrics make zero sense to me. Is it because they played 9 q4 teams? Looks like they only had one bad loss all year
    I mean its all a mix, the difference between last 8 in and first 8 out is minimal. Just depends what the committee wants to look at.

    They do seem to value beating tournament teams away from home though. Last year Seton Hall did that zero times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...ld-predictions

    It’s not just lunardi that’s doing this, I’m seeing it in a lot of places but some of these teams that are ahead of x at this point is laughable. Unc, Indiana, Georgia, Oklahoma? Come on. What does Georgia and Oklahoma have to do to fall out of the conversation? Oklahoma is 3-9 in their conference. I know it’s the sec but this is getting stupid the leeway some of those teams in that league are getting.

    Heck, can someone point me to a team that SMU has beaten to get consideration even with their gaudy record?

    Just keep winning i guess is all X can do...I just hope that if they do get these remaining five that the Big East isn't going to get screwed. I firmly believe we need a new Commissioner with bigger and better voice.
    It's worth pointing out that he has UC San Diego and George Mason seeded ahead of the First Four. How much does he think they would drop if one or both ended up needing the at-large bid?

    If Drake and UC San Diego both win out until their conference tournaments, I think the committee takes them. I obviously can't prove that, and others may disagree, but it is my own personal opinion that this particular committee will select those two teams if they win out. I could also see them possibly selecting UC Irvine simply because of the sheer number of games they have won away from home. Again, I could be completely wrong, but they have the type of profile that the committee NORMALLY (albeit not always) places inside the bubble.

    Another thing that I noticed about the committee's top 16 teams this past week. Where a team tops out carries a lot of weight. Kentucky has some garbage in the middle of their profile, but the top of thier profile is outstanding and the committee gave them a protected seed. That is NOT a good sign for Xavier because the top of X's profile is not that great. It's also bad for UC Irvine, who I know I just said might get selected, but I'm just saying. Perhaps they're both left out.

    Just a side note, Yale does not have the profile and won't get in without winning the Ivy Tournament, but holy crap are they good!! They didn't get up to their full speed right away, and therefore didn't quite get the wins early in the season that they needed, but February Yale would blow November Yale off the floor, and if Yale were to play the four teams that Lunardi has on his 10 line, I think they'd blow all four of them off hte court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Well, the net is crap. We all know that.
    OK, but KenPom also lists all of those teams above Xavier with the exception of Indiana. The Hoosiers are #53 to Xavier's #52. UC is #54.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    OK, but KenPom also lists all of those teams above Xavier with the exception of Indiana. The Hoosiers are #53 to Xavier's #52. UC is #54.
    I’d argue that’s evidence that kenpom is crap too lol. I’m kidding about Kenpom partly, and x did this to themselves so I get being positioned where we are, but I think others around us are getting the benefit of the doubt for losses while x isn’t.

    Regarding brew’s point about mid majors getting in, If recent history proves anything, it’s that the benefit of the doubt goes to the big 4 leagues over anyone, and yeah I don’t think anyone outside of the big East considers us on par with those 4 no matter how many titles the conference has in the last decade. Big East has a reach, messaging, marketing problem. I consider us one of the best leagues in the country, I’m not sure anyone else that doesn’t have financial interest or a fan of the team in the league believes that.
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    I think Xavier needs to win 4 out of the last 5 to have a decent chance to get at large. That is asking a lot. That quad 1 record is ugly. Sure could have used that win at St John's up 16 in the 2nd half that is the one that got away you had to have.
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    4 of 5 is NIT unless we get 2 big wins at MSG before losing in the finals. It's win out or bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryMuto View Post
    I think Xavier needs to win 4 out of the last 5 to have a decent chance to get at large. That is asking a lot. That quad 1 record is ugly. Sure could have used that win at St John's up 16 in the 2nd half that is the one that got away you had to have.
    X isn’t getting in with one more loss in the reg season. At absolute best x would be last one in before bid thieve season starts, and we all know there will be some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    4 of 5 is NIT unless we get 2 big wins at MSG before losing in the finals. It's win out or bust.
    Even then I wouldn’t feel comfortable going into selection Sunday. A small shred of hope, but committee just doesn’t put any emphasis on conference tournaments.
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    In KenPom Xavier moved from #52 to #52 with the win.

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