Brackets and Rankings: 2024-2025

[Xville]

For the record, if X finished with just one more loss they’d have its 4th best season in the Big East (record wise, couldn’t find an easy site to see standings wise). Having said that, it’s easy to do with only 4 seasons above .500 in the BE so far. A couple right at .500, too. So unfortunately, X isn’t actually getting worse in the BE.

It was a little shocking when I looked back at our conference records in the Big East. I know, it's a tough league but I was still surprised.

[muskiefan82]

I remember the day the non-losing conference record streak died. It was a very sad day

[Xville]

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...ld-predictions

It’s not just lunardi that’s doing this, I’m seeing it in a lot of places but some of these teams that are ahead of x at this point is laughable. Unc, Indiana, Georgia, Oklahoma? Come on. What does Georgia and Oklahoma have to do to fall out of the conversation? Oklahoma is 3-9 in their conference. I know it’s the sec but this is getting stupid the leeway some of those teams in that league are getting.

Heck, can someone point me to a team that SMU has beaten to get consideration even with their gaudy record?

Just keep winning i guess is all X can do...I just hope that if they do get these remaining five that the Big East isn't going to get screwed. I firmly believe we need a new Commissioner with bigger and better voice.

[GoMuskies]

All the teams you mentioned are ahead of us in the NET Rankings. You can't really suck as much as this Xavier team has and then complain about getting screwed. Go win out and it won't be a problem.

[Xville]

All the teams you mentioned are ahead of us in the NET Rankings. You can't really suck as much as this Xavier team has and then complain about getting screwed. Go win out and it won't be a problem.

Well, the net is crap. We all know that.

And, my main issue is, is winning out going to be enough? I feel that the teams I mentioned are getting the benefit of the doubt no matter how much they lose. I’m concerned that winning out may not be enough. Maybe I’m making a mountain out of a mole hill, but I’m a bit concerned, especially with how I believe the big East got effed last year.

[Xavier]

It would be enough for sure. The question I have is- I know conference tournament doesn’t impact bids much at all, but can NET rankings still change. Say Creighton goes on to win BE tournament and move up to a Q1 it changes our metrics a bit (compared to other bubble teams).

Regardless I agree with GO. It’s kinda hard to get screwed out of the tournament. Win out and we’d be fine, but we had the chances too. The thing that stinks to me is if Creighton ends at NET 32, 2 spots would be the difference between making it and not. Regardless, just look how bubble teams are collapsing. It will continue. Win out and we’re fine.

[Xville]

It would be enough for sure. The question I have is- I know conference tournament doesn’t impact bids much at all, but can NET rankings still change. Say Creighton goes on to win BE tournament and move up to a Q1 it changes our metrics a bit (compared to other bubble teams).

Regardless I agree with GO. It’s kinda hard to get screwed out of the tournament. Win out and we’d be fine, but we had the chances too. The thing that stinks to me is if Creighton ends at NET 32, 2 spots would be the difference between making it and not. Regardless, just look how bubble teams are collapsing. It will continue. Win out and we’re fine.

I bet seton hall thought that last year as well. I think x has a better resume if they win out, but hall was 20-11, 13-7. Don’t remember their breakdown of quad 1 wins bad losses but I dunno. Probably just overthinking this

[XUMIOH12]

I bet seton hall thought that last year as well. I think x has a better resume if they win out, but hall was 20-11, 13-7. Don’t remember their breakdown of quad 1 wins bad losses but I dunno. Probably just overthinking this

Their resume was actually pretty solid last year, but the predictive metrics/rankings on them were not good. I checked the NET rankings from the day of the selection show (This includes their 0-1 BET record). They also had 0 out of conference wins of note. Lost to all power conference opponents in the non conference schedule.

Seton Hall was 67 NET. With 5-8 Q1 / 4-3 Q2 / 2-1 Q3 / 9-0 Q4

They finished the season 50th in Kenpom, but that is after going 5-0 to win the NIT, so they were slightly worse at the time of selection show. Same with BPI, finished 53rd there.

Their predictive metrics/rankings last year were actually all very similar to where last year's Xavier team was ranked.

[xuwillie]

Their resume was actually pretty solid last year, but the predictive metrics/rankings on them were not good. I checked the NET rankings from the day of the selection show (This includes their 0-1 BET record).

Seton Hall was 67 NET. With 5-8 Q1 / 4-3 Q2 / 2-1 Q3 / 9-0 Q4

They finished the season 50th in Kenpom, but that is after going 5-0 to win the NIT, so they were slightly worse at the time of selection show.

Those numbers are Surprising, clearly a team that should have gotten in. Not seeing X anywhere close to getting in with their numbers

[XUMIOH12]

Those numbers are Surprising, clearly a team that should have gotten in. Not seeing X anywhere close to getting in with their numbers

Yeah based strictly on a W/L and Quad standpoint they probably deserved a bid. But they were hurt by their other metrics being low. As well as doing absolutely nothing in the non conference against power conference teams.

If Xavier were to win out, or even just lose 1. They'd have less Q1 than last year's Seton Hall team, but they'd be 20+ spots better in the predictive metrics and rankings. Doesn't mean they'd get a bid, but they certainly would still put up a VERY bubbly case.