The Ryan Conwell investment.

[Jumpin_Jamal_Forever]

I didn’t allude to anything. I didn’t suggest that there was some sinister forces at play. I didn’t speculate that there was “something going on”.

I actually PROVIDED an explanation for why he had several lackluster games in a row.

You guys are hung up on this idea of making something out of nothing. But I didn’t provide “nothing”. I provided an ACTUAL root cause that may explain ( in whole or in part) some of Conwells struggles.

And I didn’t make this shit up. Jason Carter jumped from the MAC to the Big East…..and floundered. Ben Stanley led the country in shot attempts at Hampton….and couldn’t crack the rotation at X.

It goes the other way too. Sasa Ciani got destroyed in the Big East last year and is now averaging nearly a double double in 20 minutes per game….in the same league that Conwell came from.

The reality is there IS a difference in the competition level between the conferences. And further reality is that many players struggle (or flourish depending on if they moved down) when facing different competition. That was my position.

Lumping that reasonable take into some tin foil hat NIL conspiracy is just wrong.

Well, I think it is reasonable to ask how we evaluate transfer talent. Hettel postulated that Conwell was not talented enough to compete in the B.E. The book is now (or certainly should be) closed. I'm pretty sure Hettel, too, agrees with that.

Conwell can compete at this level. That's an understatement! And, we have plenty of examples of lower division talent coming to X and doing well---most recently Souley and then Olivari. More going back before then. But, this year, we all can agree (I think) that Hugely and Maddox look like misses. Hugely didn't even play at a lower level. He just hasn't gotten it done.

In the portal era, we will need to evaluate incoming talent effectively. That evaluation must occur quickly. Competition will not allow a long thorough evaluation.

As an aside, I wasn't sorry to see Abou, Cianni or Lazar move on. They all appeared to be misses last year. Wish we had them this year.

[MHettel]

Well, I think it is reasonable to ask how we evaluate transfer talent. Hettel postulated that Conwell was not talented enough to compete in the B.E. The book is now (or certainly should be) closed. I'm pretty sure Hettel, too, agrees with that.

Conwell can compete at this level. That's an understatement! And, we have plenty of examples of lower division talent coming to X and doing well---most recently Souley and then Olivari. More going back before then. But, this year, we all can agree (I think) that Hugely and Maddox look like misses. Hugely didn't even play at a lower level. He just hasn't gotten it done.

In the portal era, we will need to evaluate incoming talent effectively. That evaluation must occur quickly. Competition will not allow a long thorough evaluation.

As an aside, I wasn't sorry to see Abou, Cianni or Lazar move on. They all appeared to be misses last year. Wish we had them this year.

It is for SURE a potential issue with transfers. Some guys are immune to it (Boum & Q as examples) and others look outclassed.

Kunkel is a good example of a guy that moved up and his numbers dropped considerably, but he still found a way to contribute.

Tandy is another example. Cant get on the court at X, transfers to Jacksonville and is all conference 2nd team, then transfers to FAU where he seemingly just stands in the corner and takes only 3s. I don’t get it. The only thing that changed is the competition.

Check Gytis’ numbers at Hawaii. It’s like 15&7 and drilling 3s.

Odom is good at Tulsa. Edwards is near a double double at Georgia state.

Craft is a scoring machine. Let’s face it, had he never gone to Xavier and he enters the portal after this year we’d all be like “yes, please”…..but we know better.

Bottom line is that Conwell had several poor games over a short stretch of time. If we continue to see this guy that showed up the last 2 games then he will be in the same sentence at Souley and Q. If he turns out to be more “hot and cold”, the. I guess he winds up a tier below those guys.

I’ll take what we e. Even getting lately.

Lazar is not doing so hot…..2-18 this year from 3.

[MHettel]

And this just found a new life.

At this point it’s not about Conwell. At all.

But the “quick trigger” claims that the original question about Conwells performance had no merit. Now, I don’t necessarily buy the idea that he’s tanking due to some NIL issue or something like that.

Many came to his defense and he shut down this discussion mid week with that dagger performance against Nova. Mic drop!

But he had a real clunker today. His shot was blocked 4 times including g 3 from 3. Hell I could do that.

So what is the consensus? Slump?

A slump is when the shot doesn’t go IN.

His shots barely left his hand. He struggled even finding a shot today.

Was it the MU gameplan to give him nothing? (I would do that). Was it the competition level and facing a tenacious perimeter defensive team (my prior theory). Or both.

Gonna need something consistently right in the middle of what we got from Conwell this week.

We get Tuesdays performance against Nova and we win out. We get what we did today and we maybe get 2-3 more wins.

I am a little perplexed, but hopefull

[GoMuskies]

I hear you, but we got what we did today from him and beat the #7 team in the country on the road. So I'm not sure I'd be so confident in the 2-3 win claim with some of the shitty teams we've still got on the schedule.

[Xville]

Best win for x in a really really long time and first instinct is to get on x chatboard and whine about school financials and conwell’s disappointing game. Someone really needs to get laid.

[xukeith]

And this just found a new life.

At this point it’s not about Conwell. At all.

But the “quick trigger” claims that the original question about Conwells performance had no merit. Now, I don’t necessarily buy the idea that he’s tanking due to some NIL issue or something like that.

Many came to his defense and he shut down this discussion mid week with that dagger performance against Nova. Mic drop!

But he had a real clunker today. His shot was blocked 4 times including g 3 from 3. Hell I could do that.

So what is the consensus? Slump?

A slump is when the shot doesn’t go IN.

His shots barely left his hand. He struggled even finding a shot today.

Was it the MU gameplan to give him nothing? (I would do that). Was it the competition level and facing a tenacious perimeter defensive team (my prior theory). Or both.

Gonna need something consistently right in the middle of what we got from Conwell this week.

We get Tuesdays performance against Nova and we win out. We get what we did today and we maybe get 2-3 more wins.

I am a little perplexed, but hopefull

I think it depends on how hard the competition is. Is SJ closer to Villanova or closer to Marquette?

[bleedXblue]

Conwell needs to be more situationally aware of his opponents. He was scouted well by Marquette and almost always try's to pull a quick trigger without a pump or head fake.

[Xavier]

He didn’t have a good game. He was guarded by arguable the best defending guard in the country. Still, didn’t have it- missed a few open looks we needed.

But he had 3 crucial plays to win the game for us in the end. A drive, great dish for an easy layup, and diving on the loose ball. Neither Marquette player did. Conwell did the dirty work. I don’t think we scored off the time out he got, but it stopped them from an easy fast break. He was responsible for 6 points in most Crucial time. Overall game- we need more- in most crucial time he was huge

[bleedXblue]

He didn’t have a good game. He was guarded by arguable the best defending guard in the country. Still, didn’t have it- missed a few open looks we needed.

But he had 3 crucial plays to win the game for us in the end. A drive, great dish for an easy layup, and diving on the loose ball. Neither Marquette player did. Conwell did the dirty work. I don’t think we scored off the time out he got, but it stopped them from an easy fast break. He was responsible for 6 points in most Crucial time. Overall game- we need more- in most crucial time he was huge

Agreed- again being more aware of that and making an adjustment ....especially after the first block.......

[Xville]

Agreed- again being more aware of that and making an adjustment ....especially after the first block.......

One thing. Two of the blocks were when he was given the ball at the end of the shot clock. He doesn’t have the athleticism to get by his man 1 on 1 at this level. It’s just not his game. It’s really no one’s on x outside of maybe Dayvion and swain (if his handle improves). As others said he impacted winning without scoring much and having an off shooting game. Biggest thing, won probably the biggest reg season away game ever outside of beating uc in 96.