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    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    Should we ranked this week with both Rutgers and St. John's losing...Lets go ahead and stay there the rest of the year :)

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    X checks in at #22. Stay in it the rest of the year!

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    We're in b/c of other's misfortune and I'm ok with that. Let's win a couple of Tier 1/2 games this week and EARN a better ranking!

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    Xavier's SOR is now 44th, which is kind of nuts considering that three of the teams they've beaten have no D1 wins, but I guess when you consider that X is the only team to beat Wake and Siena actually did win a road game, the metric sees that as being two good wins.

    UConn's current SOR is 100th. If they hold on to beat Memphis they'll probably jump ahead of us. But if X ends up beating Michigan they'll also shoot way up.

    Most of the metrics are all scattershot right now, so the polls probably are the best frame of reference until most teams have played a football season. But, SOR is probably the metric/poll I value the most. It's not the only one by any means, but it measures what I personally think matters. How hard was it to win the games that you've won??

    And no matter what you look at (NET, SOR, AP, Coaches, KenPom, Torvik, etc), by the end of the year they're all generally consistent. Not identical, but generally close.
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    X is down to #67 in KenPom.

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    If what I'm seeing is correct, 64 in the net. X has a lot of work to do.

    TCU is in the 40s so a chance to pick up a Quad 1 quickly. South carolina is #51...that could turn into a quad 1 with a little bump...cut off is 50 at neutral sites.

    Edit: Ok it was wrong...X is 103...holy crap that's horrible. X has a LOT of work to do. TCU is 121 geezus.

    X has all Quad 3 and Quad 4 wins at this point; 0-1 in Quad 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    If what I'm seeing is correct, 64 in the net. X has a lot of work to do.

    TCU is in the 40s so a chance to pick up a Quad 1 quickly. South carolina is #51...that could turn into a quad 1 with a little bump...cut off is 50 at neutral sites.

    Edit: Ok it was wrong...X is 103...holy crap that's horrible. X has a LOT of work to do. TCU is 121 geezus.

    X has all Quad 3 and Quad 4 wins at this point; 0-1 in Quad 1.
    I get that it's early, but for a team to be 7-1 and only be 103rd in the NET is pretty crazy. Xavier certainly didn't look like a top 100 team in their last two games, and 4 of those 7 wins were against teams that probably wouldn't be anywhere close to making the D2 tournament, and they barely won a couple of those, so I guess it makes sense, but it still seems kind of crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xubrew View Post
    I get that it's early, but for a team to be 7-1 and only be 103rd in the NET is pretty crazy. Xavier certainly didn't look like a top 100 team in their last two games, and 4 of those 7 wins were against teams that probably wouldn't be anywhere close to making the D2 tournament, and they barely won a couple of those, so I guess it makes sense, but it still seems kind of crazy.
    I hate the NET. I think it's a shit metric TBH. Case in point, UC is 7-0...all their wins are Q3 and Q4 and they are 11. They won 2 road games against powerhouse NKU and Georgia Tech who will be at the very best in the middle of a shit ACC. Such a shit way to group teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    I hate the NET. I think it's a shit metric TBH. Case in point, UC is 7-0...all their wins are Q3 and Q4 and they are 11. They won 2 road games against powerhouse NKU and Georgia Tech who will be at the very best in the middle of a shit ACC. Such a shit way to group teams.
    I can't figure that one out.

    When something seems out of whack I can usually find which of the five variables is causing it to be out of whack, but with UC I really can't. They're 11th. How?? They're 2-0 on the road, and I know having a 1000 road record is a big deal, but the teams they've beaten aren't particularly good at home, much less good overall. About 60 teams would be unbeaten against that schedule and have those same margins of victory.

    I'm also not the biggest fan of the NET. I don't mind the concept of it, meaning I don't mind trying to find something that's a hybrid of merit rankings and efficiency ratings, but I just think this one misses more than it hits. But...whatever. At the end of the day it's just a sorting tool. and we have a ton of games to go.

    UCLA at 16th also doesn't make any sense. All their games have been at home and they lost to the one decent team they played.
    Last edited by xubrew; 12-02-2024 at 11:08 AM.
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