Politics Thread

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Cite that 33T number for me. I can't find that. I see Clinton's last year was a few ticks over 3T and 2023 was 6.1T per the CBO. I can't find that number you listed. FY23 tax receipts were a bit over 4T.

[Xville]

Cite that 33T number for me. I can't find that. I see Clinton's last year was a few ticks over 3T and 2023 was 6.1T per the CBO. I can't find that number you listed. FY23 tax receipts were a bit over 4T.

Ya know what. Thanks for pointing that out, and I stand corrected. It's the National debt numbers I was referencing:

33 Trillion currently.

First year of Clinton it was 4 trillion.

https://www.investopedia.com/us-nati...y-year-7499291

What I am seeing is that in '96 the budget was 1.6 trillion...this past year about 7

https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/title/...s#section-1920

Again, I understand inflation but thats effing insane its grown that much in less than 3 decades.

[paulxu]

In addition to breaking an historical norm of divesting of business interest (to prevent bribing, etc.) the first go around, now they are skipping another historical norm of having FBI do background checks on nominees. This is to protect the nation's intelligence secrets among other things.

Which I guess makes sense since you can't pass their check if you have a felony conviction, other violations of the law, or have actual stolen the nation's intelligence secrets and refused to return them.

Only the best people.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Ya know what. Thanks for pointing that out, and I stand corrected. It's the National debt numbers I was referencing:

33 Trillion currently.

First year of Clinton it was 4 trillion.

https://www.investopedia.com/us-nati...y-year-7499291

What I am seeing is that in '96 the budget was 1.6 trillion...this past year about 7

https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/title/...s#section-1920

Again, I understand inflation but thats effing insane its grown that much in less than 3 decades.

Clinton raised it 1.4T from 4.4T to 5.8T.
Bush II raised it 6.1T from 5.8T to 11.9T.
Obama raised it 8.3T from 11.9T to 20.2T.
Trump raised it 8.2T from 20.2T to 28.4T.
Biden raised it from 28.4T to 35.4 currently but the number is still ?? so at least 7T.

Just looking at these to me, Bush should shamed because despite wars the economy was actually decent until we 2007-8 when it was day-to-day. Obama should have done a little better despite inheriting the worst financial collapse in 100 years. I want to dig deeper into Trump's numbers. How much of his increase stemmed from decreased revenues from his massive tax breaks to Corps.

[bobbiemcgee]

Lack of experience doesn't really bother me. As long as RFK doesn't go the anti-vaccine route, I really like that pick. We need to fix our food, and figure out what the hell is wrong with our health care infrastructure.

The only one I really don't agree with is Gaetz, I hope that Republicans use some common sense here and don't confirm him. The guy is trash.

What part of no cancer research and no polio vaccine do you agree with? I spent 30 years in Rotary getting rid of it. We DID it! Now it's back

[GoMuskies]

Your governor is a big RFK, Jr. fan, bobbie.

[Xville]

What part of no cancer research and no polio vaccine do you agree with? I spent 30 years in Rotary getting rid of it. We DID it! Now it's back

What exactly are you referring to?

Here's what I know about our healthcare system...its fucked up, period. Every single corporation and government has their hand in the cookie jar as it relates to what we put into our bodies from food to medicine and at every single turn the American consumer is getting effed without lube. I work in the system...doctors, pharma, big farming institutions, government are making an obscene amount of money off all of us by making and keeping us sick. Look at the data of what has occurred here in America over the last 50 years...look at the rise in cancers, birth defects, ADHD, autism, digestive problems, gluten and lactose intolerance, and communicable diseases. How do you think this has happened and why?

[GoMuskies]

Paywalled, but if you subscribe to WSJ, an excellent article today on election betting markets (which they euphemistically refer to as prediction markets).

https://www.wsj.com/politics/electio...d=hp_lead_pos8

[ArizonaXUGrad]

What exactly are you referring to?

Here's what I know about our healthcare system...its fucked up, period. Every single corporation and government has their hand in the cookie jar as it relates to what we put into our bodies from food to medicine and at every single turn the American consumer is getting effed without lube. I work in the system...doctors, pharma, big farming institutions, government are making an obscene amount of money off all of us by making and keeping us sick. Look at the data of what has occurred here in America over the last 50 years...look at the rise in cancers, birth defects, ADHD, autism, digestive problems, gluten and lactose intolerance, and communicable diseases. How do you think this has happened and why?

I like the post, but a lot of the increase in autism has to do with the ability to detect it even at it's level 1 lowest level. The same goes for lactose intolerance and gluten intolerance.

RFK's time will be judged on how much he focuses on the food supply over other things like his opposition to vaccines/they cause autism which is nonsense.

[Xville]

I like the post, but a lot of the increase in autism has to do with the ability to detect it even at it's level 1 lowest level. The same goes for lactose intolerance and gluten intolerance.

RFK's time will be judged on how much he focuses on the food supply over other things like his opposition to vaccines/they cause autism which is nonsense.

I don’t know what’s caused autism, but I disagree with your gluten/lactose premise. Food has changed drastically in the last 20-30 years and even more so in the last ten. That has to have some kind of an effect on our bodies’ issues. Europe does not have these issues.