View Poll Results: Who should have their jersey retired.

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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier View Post
    I’m not sure that’s true. In all honesty, if Boum led the team to a final four, I’d retire the number. If there’s a clear cut leader of the first final four team- he’s rafter worthy to me.

    Don’t want to derail the thread but I think we will see the better teams will still have strong cores with transfers being good fits within that core. So you certainly could and should see solid 4 year players
    I have my doubts on this. Trevon was a weird exception. He was around top 50 as a recruit, but was always looked at as a 4 year player because he didn't have a game that could translate to the NBA due to size and athleticism. That worked out perfect for us.

    I just think its going to just get harder and harder for a Freshmen to just come in a play (or start) right away. I think if there is an obvious opening in the starting lineup for the upcoming year, then we will try to fill it with a transfer. So the freshman will need to beat out the transfer AND anyone else on the roster already at that position. The exception would be a true stud freshman that is so good, you expect that he can just come in and start....in which case he's probably leave early to the pros or gonna cost you a fortune in NIL if he stays. Unless you find another Tre.

    Possible? Yes
    Likely? Not so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier View Post
    I’m not sure that’s true. In all honesty, if Boum led the team to a final four, I’d retire the number. If there’s a clear cut leader of the first final four team- he’s rafter worthy to me.

    Don’t want to derail the thread but I think we will see the better teams will still have strong cores with transfers being good fits within that core. So you certainly could and should see solid 4 year players
    No chance.

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    Sato, Posey, Doellman

    Sato - Fifa HOF
    Posey - 3 NBA Championship rings
    Doellman - Europe's MVP and highest paid player

    All are great accomplishments after X. And they were not slouches during their time at X. Also took X to it's greatest heights.
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  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by MADXSTER View Post
    Sato, Posey, Doellman

    Sato - Fifa HOF
    Posey - 3 NBA Championship rings
    Doellman - Europe's MVP and highest paid player

    All are great accomplishments after X. And they were not slouches during their time at X. Also took X to it's greatest heights.
    No doubt about those accolades. But I’m thinking to get into the rafters, it’s gotta be all about what you did at X.

    Posey played only 3 years and those teams didn’t do any damage in the Tourney. And if I had to pick a guy from that Era, it would be Lenny.

    Kind of the same story with Doellman. Hard to isolate Doellman as a guy that worthy of getting his jersey retired while you also have Cage, Duncan, and Hammer overlapping on those teams. Very good TEAMS, but really no dominate guy.

  5. #35
    In my mind, it should be based solely on their XU career, not their pro career. And you shouldn't have to "make a case". It should just be unanimously understood and agreed. I don't think anyone disagrees with any of the names up in the rafters now, and I suspect everyone would agree Tu and Trevon are no brainers. But if you have to start "making a case", and you retire too many, it starts to become watered down. As an exanple, the XU Hall of Fame adding a 1-year player like Jordan Crawford based on his post-XU pro career to me is an insult to all the other 3 and 4-year XU athletes in the XUHOF. That's watering down to me. Obviously many may view things differently, and that's okay too.

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    ALL-AMERICAN: Sporting News Third Team All-American, the first XU player on one of the top three teams on a major All-American listing since 2003 National Player of the Year David West.

    NCAA TOURNAMENT STAR: Earned a spot on the five-member NCAA Tournament All-West Region Team after averaging 29.0 ppg. for Xavier's three games, including a career-high 32 against Kansas State in the Regional Semifinal...had a 28-point effort in the NCAA First Round win over Minnesota and a 27-point game in the NCAA Second Round win over Pittsburgh.

    MORE HONORS: Sporting News and foxsports.com Atlantic 10 Conference Player of the Year...voted First Team All-Atlantic 10 by the A-10 coaches...named to the USBWA (United States Basketball Writers Association) All-District V Team, which covers Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin...NABC (National Association of Basketball Coaches) All-District 4 First Team...earned Atlantic 10 Player of the Week honors three times.

    SCORING LEADERSHIP: Led the Atlantic 10 Conference and was 21st in the nation in scoring at 20.5 ppg., including 24.8 ppg. over the final six games...scored a career-high 30 points at Wake Forest on Jan. 3 to go with six rebounds, four assists and four steals...scored a game-high 26 points at Saint Louis on Feb. 24, including 17 in the decisive second half...scored a game-high 25 points at UMass that included two big three-pointers that keyed a decisive late 9-0 run...had a big game against Rhode Island on Jan. 23 as he scored a game-high 21 points to go with a collegiate career-high 12 rebounds and a Xavier career-high six assists...led Xavier in scoring in 25 games...scored 20 or more points 20 times, including the each of the last six games...scored in double figures in 34 of 35 games, including 31 straight games...scored 14 of his 16 points in the win over Dayton on Jan. 16 in the decisive second half...also contributed 4.7 rpg. (third on the team) and 2.9 apg. (second on the team)...ranked sixth in the A-10 in three-point field goal percentage at 39.1 percent (79-of-202)...sixth in the A-10 in free-throw shooting at 77.3 percent (119-of-154).

    SCORING LEADER: Led Xavier and the Atlantic 10 in scoring at 20.5 ppg...XU's first conference scoring leader since Byron Larkin, who led the MCC at 21.8 ppg. in 1985-86...in fact, XU has not had a player average 17 ppg. or more since National Player of the Year David West scored 20.1 ppg. as a senior in the 2002-03 season...his 718 points are the most ever by a Xavier sophomore and the fourth-highest point total scored by any XU player.

    Where as Crawford played on 5 teams over 6 years and avg 12 pts and 24 mins played over his career. So saying he was elected based on his pro career is dismissing a whole lot he did in his one year at XU
    Last edited by kane79; 10-12-2024 at 05:36 PM.

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by kane79 View Post
    ALL-AMERICAN: Sporting News Third Team All-American, the first XU player on one of the top three teams on a major All-American listing since 2003 National Player of the Year David West.

    NCAA TOURNAMENT STAR: Earned a spot on the five-member NCAA Tournament All-West Region Team after averaging 29.0 ppg. for Xavier's three games, including a career-high 32 against Kansas State in the Regional Semifinal...had a 28-point effort in the NCAA First Round win over Minnesota and a 27-point game in the NCAA Second Round win over Pittsburgh.

    MORE HONORS: Sporting News and foxsports.com Atlantic 10 Conference Player of the Year...voted First Team All-Atlantic 10 by the A-10 coaches...named to the USBWA (United States Basketball Writers Association) All-District V Team, which covers Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin...NABC (National Association of Basketball Coaches) All-District 4 First Team...earned Atlantic 10 Player of the Week honors three times.

    SCORING LEADERSHIP: Led the Atlantic 10 Conference and was 21st in the nation in scoring at 20.5 ppg., including 24.8 ppg. over the final six games...scored a career-high 30 points at Wake Forest on Jan. 3 to go with six rebounds, four assists and four steals...scored a game-high 26 points at Saint Louis on Feb. 24, including 17 in the decisive second half...scored a game-high 25 points at UMass that included two big three-pointers that keyed a decisive late 9-0 run...had a big game against Rhode Island on Jan. 23 as he scored a game-high 21 points to go with a collegiate career-high 12 rebounds and a Xavier career-high six assists...led Xavier in scoring in 25 games...scored 20 or more points 20 times, including the each of the last six games...scored in double figures in 34 of 35 games, including 31 straight games...scored 14 of his 16 points in the win over Dayton on Jan. 16 in the decisive second half...also contributed 4.7 rpg. (third on the team) and 2.9 apg. (second on the team)...ranked sixth in the A-10 in three-point field goal percentage at 39.1 percent (79-of-202)...sixth in the A-10 in free-throw shooting at 77.3 percent (119-of-154).

    SCORING LEADER: Led Xavier and the Atlantic 10 in scoring at 20.5 ppg...XU's first conference scoring leader since Byron Larkin, who led the MCC at 21.8 ppg. in 1985-86...in fact, XU has not had a player average 17 ppg. or more since National Player of the Year David West scored 20.1 ppg. as a senior in the 2002-03 season...his 718 points are the most ever by a Xavier sophomore and the fourth-highest point total scored by any XU player.

    Where as Crawford played on 5 teams over 6 years and avg 12 pts and 24 mins played over his career. So saying he was elected based on his pro career is dismissing a whole lot he did in his one year at XU
    This play. Nice hustle, JC

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    Looks like Sato was the answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier View Post
    Looks like Sato was the answer
    And should be and is very well deserving.......i think there will be a long lull between now and the next one.

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    Congrats to Romain! Well deserved.

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