Politics Thread

xuphan · 01-16-2024, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by paulxu

31% of Iowa Republicans polled said Trump not fit for office if convicted.
Of course he's already convicted of sexual assault. If the Florida case was allowed to proceed, that would seem to be an easy conviction on taking/keeping top secret documents.
But, if those 31% stay home, or vote for Biden in a head to head, that would be a difference maker.

I might be old but I don’t see 31% of Iowa Republicans voting for Biden regardless of who the Republican nominee is.

**GoMuskies** · 01-16-2024, 10:18 AM

Similarly, I don't expect the 31% of Iowa Democrats who suspect that Joe Biden might actually be dead to vote for Trump.

Xville · 01-16-2024, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by xuphan

Did he run out of money? Figured he would wait until New Hampshire. However, I don’t think anyone is stopping the Trump Train to the nomination. His margin of victory last night has to have the Biden campaign trembling for sure.

Considering that anywhere from 5 to 7 out of 10 haley supporters said they won't vote for trump in a general, I think the last thing the Biden Campaign is doing is trembling. Trump has to win over the independents/moderates in order to win the general. Hes not going to.

**GoMuskies** · 01-16-2024, 12:56 PM

Trump is getting to be a pretty large betting favorite to win this November. He's +100 to Biden's +200 in the latest odds at Betonline. Michelle Obama is actually the #3 choice at +900. Then Hayley at +1400 and Newsom +1800. DeSantis is all the way back at +5000, behind by God Kamala Harris at +3500.

You can get Deion Sanders at +50000! LOL

According to Betonline, Michelle Obama has a better chance of being the Dem nominee than Hayley has of being the Republican nom.

**X-band '01** · 01-16-2024, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by xuphan

Did he run out of money? Figured he would wait until New Hampshire. However, I don’t think anyone is stopping the Trump Train to the nomination. His margin of victory last night has to have the Biden campaign trembling for sure.

He was not only running out of money, he tried to take on Trump after basically kissing his butt on the campaign trail. At that point, he was toast.

**X-band '01** · 01-16-2024, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by GoMuskies

His margin of victory last night was exactly what was expected in Iowa. New Hampshire will tell us if there's a chance for anyone else. I think Haley is the only one with any chance, and her losing to DeSantis last night is a bad sign. But if one of them wins New Hampshire, it's game on. If not, Trump is going to be the nominee unless he's prevented by the courts (in which case shit will get very, very ugly).

Iowa gave DeSantis a little more of a lifeline, but I don't see how he beats Haley in either New Hampshire, South Carolina or Nevada.

Remember previous winners in Iowa like Ted Cruz and Rick Santorum? Me neither.

xuphan · 01-16-2024, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by X-band '01

He was not only running out of money, he tried to take on Trump after basically kissing his butt on the campaign trail. At that point, he was toast.

Ada Hutchinson also out of the race. Not sure why he ran as he never seemed to have a hope of a chance of being the nominee.

**bobbiemcgee** · 01-16-2024, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by xuphan

Did he run out of money? Figured he would wait until New Hampshire. However, I don’t think anyone is stopping the Trump Train to the nomination. His margin of victory last night has to have the Biden campaign trembling for sure.

Maybe Paul and Daisy Soros wouldn't give him more than the 90000 they gave him for his education