Politics Thread

[paulxu]

The “Two State Solution” isn’t a solution. The Hamas & Iran don’t want it. Their goal is to destroy Israel.
A total non starter propagated by propaganda that Paul believes.
Trump did more to foster Middle East peace than either Obama or Biden who have only fostered violence and chaos with their appeasement.

The "Trump Peace Plan" co-authored by Kushner, envisioned a 2 state solution. Was that "propaganda?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan



Michael Orem - former Israeli ambassador to the United States

Iran and Hamas’ stated goal is the destruction of Israel. That doesn’t leave 2 states. I never said a thing about Trump and that “Solution”. Only the Abraham Accords that you blow off as meaningless.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...l-iran/670530/

Trump's 2 state solution was propaganda.

[Smails]

Trump's 2 state solution was propaganda.

Do you support Trump's 2 state solution?

[GoMuskies]

I thought Biden's speech on the situation in Israel was terrific.

Kudos to whoever wrote it and explained it to him! :)

[paulxu]

Do you support Trump's 2 state solution?

Would be hard. He didn't bother including Palestinians in the discussions/plan.
Reminiscent of not including the Afghan government, who we supported for 20 years, in the negotiations he had with the Taliban (who we were fighting) in the discussions/plan for that country.

[Smails]

Would be hard. .

That's not what I asked. Nothing in that region is easy...if it were to be implemented as constructed, would you support it?

[Smails]

I thought Biden's speech on the situation in Israel was terrific.

Kudos to whoever wrote it and explained it to him! :)

I wholeheartedly agree. Potentially his best moment on the podium as POTUS. Firm, convicted and had a very honest tone.

[paulxu]

No. I don't like when differences are settled without having both parties involved.

[Smails]

No. I don't like when differences are settled without having both parties involved.

You think Hamas will come to the bargaining table in good faith? These are the same people that were reportedly loping off babies' heads a few days ago.

How would you involve the party whose stated goal is to wipe the other off the map?

[Masterofreality]

Would be hard. He didn't bother including Palestinians in the discussions/plan.
Reminiscent of not including the Afghan government, who we supported for 20 years, in the negotiations he had with the Taliban (who we were fighting) in the discussions/plan for that country.

The Palestinians made their choice in 2005 when they freely elected Hamas, these Terrorists, as their leaders. Hamas has always had the stated goal of wiping Israel and Jewish people off the map. Same with their overlords the Iranians.
Despite what you want to believe and spin that Obama and Biden try to put on it, there was never going to be a “2 state solution”. Everytime Israel gave an inch at the bargaining table, Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran raised the stakes.
Once again, Paul spreads misinformation about a group that slaughtered people at a music concert, took hostages and went door to door gunning down innocent families. Not military people on a base or other installation, in usual public safe places.
Don’t shift the blame. The terrorists are why there would never be nor will now ever be 2 states.

[Masterofreality]

No. I don't like when differences are settled without having both parties involved.

Yeah. Both parties are involved. One of them decided to stir the trash pot up first by slaughtering innocent people, including babies and kids.
Uh, huh. Both parties are involved, and one will be wiped out, deservedly.