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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    I guess I don't find arguing that the documents are not actually classified and that you have the right to keep them to be a coverup even if you're ultimately wrong.
    I believe that the only place that was argued was on Twitter. I do not think that his lawyers ever pushed forward an argument in court that he declassified the documents (something could have been filed recently, but a quick google is showing that as of the last filing in September that argument was not being presented).
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    And presidential papers are suppose to go to the National Archives; I don't know of any exceptions for that.
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    And presidential papers are suppose to go to the National Archives; I don't know of any exceptions for that.
    OK. But the whole thing just comes off as the one millionth "walls are closing in" "bombshell" situation, and people were just sure this was really the one. Then it turns out Biden did essentially the same thing, and the sad cope of realizing Trump is going to slip away again has been hard to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterofreality View Post
    Hmmm. So it seems that pols just taking classified docs out of DC is commonplace?
    I anxiously await the FBI raid on Biden’s Delaware house with MSM Cameras at the ready!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    OK. But the whole thing just comes off as the one millionth "walls are closing in" "bombshell" situation, and people were just sure this was really the one. Then it turns out Biden did essentially the same thing, and the sad cope of realizing Trump is going to slip away again has been hard to watch.
    It appears that my statement earlier in this thread is correct.
    Only real difference is that a politicized DOJ/FBI made a drama show about raiding a former Presidents home directly in advance of an election as opposed to keeping things quiet two weeks in advance of an election because their team would be affected.
    How much more proof do you need of the bias bullsheet?
    Indict them all!! (Not happening)
    (I can hear the “but Trump” now. Irrelevant)
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    The real difference is that Pence and Biden lawyers, upon finding documents, invited the FBI to come in, take them and search the other premises.

    Trump ignored requests, partially responded to a subpoena, had his lawyers say they had returned everything (when they hadn't)......only then did DOJ go to a judge to get a warrant for the premises to recover documents. Then kept fighting with a handpicked judge for a special master and blocking access to what had been seized...until an appeals court blew the circuit judge's nonsense out of the water.

    Pretty sad if you can't tell the difference in these two situations.
    Last edited by paulxu; 01-24-2023 at 02:02 PM.
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    I just don't really see how any of that matters. i already don't like Trump. It makes me feel about the same about him as I always did. I don't really see any basis for the legal punishment for the alleged crime to be materially different for Trump as compared to the others.

    Trump's an asshole. Wow, glad we cleared that up again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    The real difference is that Pence and Biden lawyers, upon finding documents, invited the FBI to come in, take them and search the other premises.

    Trump ignored requests, partially responded to a subpoena, had his lawyers say they had returned everything (when they hadn't)......only then did DOJ go to a judge to get a warrant for the premises to recover documents. Then kept fighting with a handpicked judge for a special master and blocking access to what had been seized...until an appeals court blew the circuit judge's nonsense out of the water.

    Pretty sad if you can't tell the difference in these two situations.
    As I predicted. The “but Trump”. Still irrelevant. Biden’s “lawyers” made sure that nothing was reported for 2 months. Ignoring “Transparency”.
    See, for Paul, being disingenuous only goes one way.
    Like Go said. None of the other stuff matters.
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    Seems as if Biden’s and Stacy Abrams’ “Jim Crow 2.0” was an abject failure…..For Jim Crow!!!
    Wrong again Lefties!!!

    UGA poll: 0% of black respondents said their voting experience in Georgia was poor in the 2022 midterm election. Around 73% of black voters said it was excellent, equal to white voters.

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    Personally, I can't wait to see how the late night folks treat Pence for having classified docs in his possession. There's more comedic value in him holding those docs versus being disgusted with other politicians hoarding them (and willfully trying to hide in some cases).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    So is having classified documents in unauthorized locations a big deal, or is it not a big deal?
    Just hope we can say this act prohibits someone from seeking the presidency. Since we don’t have a maximum age, at least we can get rid of two 80 year olds.

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