Politics Thread

[Xville]

I'm going to disagree. The fiery riots around the BLM protests were horrible, that was certainly true.
I hesitate to call some few people who decided to use the protests as cover to break into stores and loot, as "organized."

If you want to see real organized, follow the Justice Department's indictments of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers who were highly organized, and dedicated to using "normies" to break into the Capitol and stop the peaceful transfer of power. It may even turn out they were organized with help from people close to the president like Stone and Bannon.

“Some few people.” ——seriously? Just stop. Your preponderance to bitch and complain about one day and then basically gloss over the fact that blm is an organized group of destruction and grifters is ridiculous. Come to downtown Louisville and see what “ a few people” did. You are just the opposite extreme side of lou and Mid. One side is to blame for everything and the other side should all have halos over their heads in your mind.

[paulxu]

I don't see any halos over anyone's head that breaks the law. I hope they get arrested, tried and convicted if they did the crime.

In terms of raw numbers, the looters seem to be very few versus the mass of people peacefully protesting with BLM.
Are there grifters in the BLM movement...I'm sure there are. There are grifters everywhere.

But protests over police brutality that turn into looting by fringe elements, in my mind are different than a coordinated effort to storm our Capitol to stop the Senate from counting the electoral college votes...putting a lot of lives in jeopardy.
One is a lawful protest about prior actions that gets way the hell out of hand, and the lawbreakers should be punished.

The other is an effort to halt the transfer of power, an American tradition and constitutional activity.

[xuphan]

I don't see any halos over anyone's head that breaks the law. I hope they get arrested, tried and convicted if they did the crime.

In terms of raw numbers, the looters seem to be very few versus the mass of people peacefully protesting with BLM.
Are there grifters in the BLM movement...I'm sure there are. There are grifters everywhere.

But protests over police brutality that turn into looting by fringe elements, in my mind are different than a coordinated effort to storm our Capitol to stop the Senate from counting the electoral college votes...putting a lot of lives in jeopardy.
One is a lawful protest about prior actions that gets way the hell out of hand, and the lawbreakers should be punished.

The other is an effort to halt the transfer of power, an American tradition and constitutional activity.

I have to disagree with this. Both Jan 6th and BLM riots were wrong and should be condemned. BLM riots were anything but peaceful. Hearing from law enforcement during multiple riots from Mike Brown, George Floyd, Brianna Taylor were anything but peaceful. From Mike Browns stepdad telling protesters to “burn the city down” to a majority of protesters spitting, throwing objects at police, and swearing at police, trying to steal their gear, burning police cars, assaulting officers, resisting arrest. I don’t call most of these riots as peaceful. Not including the fires, looting, and theft that occurred as well. Martin Luther King Jr. held peaceful protest. BLM do not hold peaceful protest.

You could also argue that most at the Jan 6th riot at the capital were peaceful protesting what they felt was an unfair election with a “small group” of people who went way to far storming the capital. I don’t see how BLM is right and Jan 6th was wrong. They both were wrong and anything but peaceful.

My point is that both were wrong but both are supported by either democrats and republicans. No accountability which means these type of events will continue to happen. Hold both sides accountable or there will continue to be no accountability which will lead to more issues with this country.

[Xville]

I don't see any halos over anyone's head that breaks the law. I hope they get arrested, tried and convicted if they did the crime.

In terms of raw numbers, the looters seem to be very few versus the mass of people peacefully protesting with BLM.
Are there grifters in the BLM movement...I'm sure there are. There are grifters everywhere.

But protests over police brutality that turn into looting by fringe elements, in my mind are different than a coordinated effort to storm our Capitol to stop the Senate from counting the electoral college votes...putting a lot of lives in jeopardy.
One is a lawful protest about prior actions that gets way the hell out of hand, and the lawbreakers should be punished.

The other is an effort to halt the transfer of power, an American tradition and constitutional activity.

If you really want to talk raw numbers… let’s compare the dollars that have been spent on cities that were destroyed by those “peaceful” protests vs the dolllars spent on Jan. 6th, or the number of arrests, or the number of murders. You live in liberal la la land

[Xuperman]

In terms of raw numbers, the looters seem to be very few versus the mass of people peacefully protesting with BLM.

Exactly 'ville. What raw numbers?

In ALL the wide spread violent "protests" in nothing but Liberal controlled cities, the looters were simply poor inner city locals with zero interest in observing any laws and took full advantage of the chaos.

These were not the people DESTROYING Government facilities and BURNING Police precincts and vehicles. There is no "looting value" in those violent acts. Only a radical anti USA/anti Law Enforcement agenda perpetrated by the HIGHLY ORGANIZED and FUNDED BLM movement, along with the Antifa militants.

To shamelessly cite Poor Boys or Oath Keepers as having any thing close to the influence and money of the BLM cancer, is the definition of disingenuous. Take off your Woke/Blue goggles if possible.

[Xuperman]

If this anti Law enforcement movement is able to continue to fester, the force moral in big blue cities will become a SERIOUS problem. There will be a void to fill and those prospects are nightmarish.

[paulxu]

My point is that both were wrong .

I agreed with this. Note: "I don't see any halos over anyone's head that breaks the law. I hope they get arrested, tried and convicted if they did the crime."

[Smails]

There's a real problem in this country with militant white nationalism

Says who...you? Liberal hack journalists? You have completely blurred the lines between opinion and fact. If you want to cry and bitch about people attacking messengers, so be it. But when the messengers like yourself post opinion articles and try to pass them off as fact, you're going to get called out on your bullshit. You're so warped in your ideology that you can't see the difference.

You ask people to 'reasonably address concerns' that simply don't exist for many. Personally I don't give a rip about white nationalism and I feel it's a completely overblown talking point by a political party who is scared to death of getting creamed in November. I think it's a scare tactic preying on weak minded individuals to whip up emotions.

I mean you seriously described the BLM riots as 'some few people'.....seriously?

[paulxu]

I mean you seriously described the BLM riots as 'some few people'.....seriously?

In terms of the tens of thousands that marched all over the country, yes. As the mayor of Louisville noted, many of the rioters were from out of town.
And I repeat, if they broke the law, they should pay the consequences.

If you don't understand the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys and others of their ilk are white nationalists, I can't help you.
If you can't see that Christian nationalism is growing along side, I can't help you.
Maybe the supposed head of the Republican party can:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...-in-gop-2022-7

[noteggs]

In terms of the tens of thousands that marched all over the country, yes. As the mayor of Louisville noted, many of the rioters were from out of town.
And I repeat, if they broke the law, they should pay the consequences.

If you don't understand the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys and others of their ilk are white nationalists, I can't help you.
If you can't see that Christian nationalism is growing along side, I can't help you.
Maybe the supposed head of the Republican party can:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...-in-gop-2022-7

It’s truly amazing how MSM continues to tie Republicans into phobias. Guess the xeno, homo, and racist labels are not making much of an impact anymore.

Now they have to tie it into Christianity. Good grief. If I’m not mistaken, God is the bedrock to most religions? Could it be possible (according to your article) he was talking about taking a knee for God and not the government? Amazing how one outlet finds a small opening and they all fall in line along with their followers.