Politics Thread

[bjf123]

Disney, Apple, Amazon, etc., have all said they’ll provide transportation and housing to blue states where abortion is legal.

What I find hypocritical about Disney is they edited the new Buzz Lightyear movie to remove the same sex kiss scene between two characters in the version that’s released in countries where same sex relationships are banned.

If they were true to their stated company philosophy, they’d tell those countries to take a hike and say the scene stays. Instead, they cave in pursuit of the almighty dollar.


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[xubrew]

Disney, Apple, Amazon, etc., have all said they’ll provide transportation and housing to blue states where abortion is legal.

What I find hypocritical about Disney is they edited the new Buzz Lightyear movie to remove the same sex kiss scene between two characters in the version that’s released in countries where same sex relationships are banned.

If they were true to their stated company philosophy, they’d tell those countries to take a hike and say the scene stays. Instead, they cave in pursuit of the almighty dollar.


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This was predictable. Other businesses will likely follow suit. What about private liberal arts colleges? Will they start providing resources to students who want to terminate a pregnancy? If so, what's to stop them?

What is also likely is that more places that perform abortions will open in the states where it is legal. The majority of abortions performed now do not even require a surgical procedure. It's a combination of pills. I think it's also possible that sooner or later (and perhaps sooner) doctors will begin to prescribe the pills to people who live out of state for...I don't know..."ulcerative pains" or something like that, and send them in the mail. An abortion typically costs between $700 and $800 dollars without insurance. Most people who decide they want one and are willing to pay for one will also find a way to drive to another state or find a way to get themselves there.

When the dust settles (which I suppose could take a while), I really don't know how much the number of abortions performed in this country will actually decline. It will probably decline some, but perhaps not by a substantial amount. A lot of people who are happy about the ruling probably don't realize how small the reduction in abortions will actually be. A lot of people who are hopping mad about this probably don't realize that most people who decide they want an abortion will still be able to get one.

If you're really pro-life, shouldn't the primary concern be reducing the number of abortions that are performed?? I think the best way to do that is to look at what makes people decide to get an abortion, and then offering to help them with those issues. I know that's a very radical concept. Overturning Roe v Wade is not the best way to do that. People can still get abortions regardless of what states they live in. There will start to be resources available to them that weren't available before. In fact we are already starting to see that.

[xubrew]

Praying at sporting events is kind of dumb. I'm pretty sure God doesn't care who wins...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/27/u...h-prayers.html

[GoMuskies]

Pretty sure the prayers are after the game.

[paulxu]

Pretty sure the prayers are after the game.

It's too late then.

[GoMuskies]

"Thanks God for winning that game for us" or

"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

[paulxu]

"Thanks God for winning that game for us" or

"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

I'm pretty sure God doesn't care who wins...

[XU_Lou]

Praying at sporting events is kind of dumb. I'm pretty sure God doesn't care who wins...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/27/u...h-prayers.html

Why do presume to know what he prays for?

[bobbiemcgee]

Had to decide which election denier got my vote today.

[Muskie in dayton]

This was predictable. Other businesses will likely follow suit. What about private liberal arts colleges? Will they start providing resources to students who want to terminate a pregnancy? If so, what's to stop them?

What is also likely is that more places that perform abortions will open in the states where it is legal. The majority of abortions performed now do not even require a surgical procedure. It's a combination of pills. I think it's also possible that sooner or later (and perhaps sooner) doctors will begin to prescribe the pills to people who live out of state for...I don't know..."ulcerative pains" or something like that, and send them in the mail. An abortion typically costs between $700 and $800 dollars without insurance. Most people who decide they want one and are willing to pay for one will also find a way to drive to another state or find a way to get themselves there.

When the dust settles (which I suppose could take a while), I really don't know how much the number of abortions performed in this country will actually decline. It will probably decline some, but perhaps not by a substantial amount. A lot of people who are happy about the ruling probably don't realize how small the reduction in abortions will actually be. A lot of people who are hopping mad about this probably don't realize that most people who decide they want an abortion will still be able to get one.

If you're really pro-life, shouldn't the primary concern be reducing the number of abortions that are performed?? I think the best way to do that is to look at what makes people decide to get an abortion, and then offering to help them with those issues. I know that's a very radical concept. Overturning Roe v Wade is not the best way to do that. People can still get abortions regardless of what states they live in. There will start to be resources available to them that weren't available before. In fact we are already starting to see that.

Your ideas are not radical, but very common-sense amidst an issue that is driven almost entirely by emotion. You are correct that this will have little impact on abortions, and nothing about it is intended to reduce abortion (though I’d suspect that would be the hope for many). The ruling is a good thing in that it de-federalizes the issue and gives power to the States. That is a good thing - the less Federal government the better of the Republic, and now this can go to the will of the States’ voters.

As to your first paragraph, the answer is money. Employers paying a few $K for an abortion is a lot cheaper than paying maternity leave and having to hire/train someone else to cover. If private, liberal arts colleges crunch the numbers and find it’s cheaper to fund an abortion, it will happen.