Politics Thread

[Masterofreality]

For Russia/Trump Collusion narrative perpetualists like Paul, they should read this exhaustive piece by reporter Matt Taibbi.
To say that this bullshit affected, demeaned and diminished Trumps approval ratings and ability to govern could not be overstated.
Hillary Clinton APPROVED the dissemination of this garbage. She and her staff should be in jail. This is a scandal of the highest order, aided and abetted by a terrible mainstream press. Incredible.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/should...-be-banned?s=r

[bobbiemcgee]

The number of people that think an overthrow of the United States Government, in today's reality, is equal to the number of people that think MEN can get pregnant. BOTH are NOT POSSIBLE.

Yeah, Navarro said he had 100's of legislators to overturn the elections in 6 states but Pence wouldn't go along. Shame.

[paulxu]

Maybe people are upset that Durham wasted 3 years to have Sussmann found not guilty.

[xuphan]

Could have been a pandemic that caused a giant reduction in demand.
Nah...that would be free market economics.

ps. The US was a net exporter of petroleum products in Biden's first year

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/...nd-exports.php

So If Trump would have won a second term, are you saying gas prices would be where they are now under a second term Trump administration like they are under the Biden administration?

[Xuperman]

So If Trump would have won a second term, are you saying gas prices would be where they are now under a second term Trump administration like they are under the Biden administration?

Thanks phan, that question is spot on as it pertains to the energy discussion here. The answer is of course no. Not to mention, this out of control inflation would not exist because fuel/energy prices are THE main trigger.

In fact, US energy providers, with the help of the Keystone/Canada pipeline, would be doing a helluva lot of new business in Europe right now.

[Xville]

There was not one main driver for the inflation we are experiencing today..there are a number of factors as to why we are experiencing this:

---interest rates being kept low while the economy was absolutely booming...causing real estate to absolutely soar----the bust was going to come, just a matter of when. Interest rates should have been risen years ago.

---Covid

---War in Ukraine

---Keystone Pipeline being shut down

---Pumping stimulus money out the wazoo into the country at a time that was not needed----which drove consumer spending at a time when there were supply issues.

Basically the last 4-5 years Washington has effed up at every single turn, and that is thru both administrations.

[Xville]

There was not one main driver for the inflation we are experiencing today..there are a number of factors as to why we are experiencing this:

---interest rates being kept low while the economy was absolutely booming...causing real estate to absolutely soar----the bust was going to come, just a matter of when. Interest rates should have been risen years ago.

---Covid

---War in Ukraine

---Keystone Pipeline being shut down

---Pumping stimulus money out the wazoo into the country at a time that was not needed----which drove consumer spending at a time when there were supply issues.

Basically the last 4-5 years Washington has effed up at every single turn, and that is thru both administrations.

[X-band '01]

A bigger subcategory of Covid would be China still trying to manage overaggressive lockdowns that's disrupting supply chains even further. It was one thing to do lockdowns worldwide when scientists were still trying to learn about the spread of Covid and how to ultimately develop and distribute a vaccine. It's no longer necessary and viable to go that route, and even China can only do it for so long before natives start to realize it's not worth the trouble.

As for Keystone, wasn't it supposed to import oil that's not even as efficient as other supplies of oil? The oil sands region of Canada would have created more pollution in the process - which was why Obama's administration ultimately vetoed the pipeline that had bipartisan support in Congress (albeit not veto-proof).

[X-band '01]

So If Trump would have won a second term, are you saying gas prices would be where they are now under a second term Trump administration like they are under the Biden administration?

The bigger issue would have been Trump's response to Russia's invasion (or a lack thereof) of Ukraine.

[Masterofreality]

Maybe people are upset that Durham wasted 3 years to have Sussmann found not guilty.

By a Clinton appointed judge with 3 Clinton donors on the DC based jury. Uh, huh!
Maybe YOU’RE upset that Mueller and your party wasted three years and millions of dollars on a Russia collusion hoax?
You might want to sit this one out.