Politics Thread

[MADXSTER]

Question: Is there any chance that Trump could sue Hillary Clinton for defamation of character or something to that effect?

[Caf]

The last 2 years here in the US, and even more so in other western countries (e.g., Canada, New Zealand, Australia), have made it abundantly clear why our forefathers wrote into the constitution that our right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

The bad timing of this post is honestly impressive.

[Masterofreality]

Uh huh!

IrAn Is TrUsTwOrThY oN nUcLeAr!!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-us...es-11653473247

“ The U.S. and the IAEA have said for years that Iran has failed to answer questions about its past nuclear work in a cat-and-mouse game that continues to this day and now complicates a revival of the nuclear deal, which lifted most international sanctions on Iran in exchange for limits on Iran’s nuclear activities.”

[paulxu]

Great reasons for ongoing inspections. Trust but verify.

[Masterofreality]

Great reasons for ongoing inspections. Trust but verify.

Which are shams. Verification is impossible with a regime that knows all the tricks.
I am amazed at your continued naivety Paul. Or your abject refusal to doubt your Feckless Leader’s reality blindness.
Iran is a terror state that exports hate….and hates the US.

[paulxu]

All of that information pertained to their efforts decades ago.
Does it make geopolitical sense? Of course. They watched as we invaded Iraq who had no WMD's, and decided the N. Korea approach of developing a bomb was the best deterrent to not be invaded.
So they naturally hid their efforts.
With the JCPOA in 2015 we had half a chance of monitoring their activity, with ever more sensitive instruments on the ground, and inspectors, to keep their enrichment levels low. All indications were that it was working. They took their stockpiles and sent them out of country, etc.
Sure we had to be on guard to cheating, but MUCH easier to do from inside the country with inspectors.
Trump decided to get out of the agreement, re-imposed more sanctions,....and Iran started enriching towards weapon grade again.

The sanctions alone don't work. (See N. Korea who is in much worse shape than Iran) We need to reduce the chance of nuclear war.
The JCPOA was a good effort in that direction. Doing nothing is not.

[X-band '01]

The mullahs and Iranians governing the country are batshit crazy, but a lot of Iranians/Iranian-Americans I've worked with and met are some of the more generous people you'll ever meet.

[Masterofreality]

All of that information pertained to their efforts decades ago.
Does it make geopolitical sense? Of course. Not unless you are a terror state
They watched as we invaded Iraq who had no WMD's, and decided the N. Korea approach of developing a bomb.
Note: To harass and intimidate Israel and Saudi Arabia which Paul leaves out.

So they naturally hid their efforts….and Iran started enriching towards weapon grade again.

Note: They never stopped. “Naturally hid their efforts”. What the hell respectable country does that Paul, unless they are going to be aggressors?? Holy Toledo!!

What a Masterclass of naiveity and Misinformation. Comparing Iran favorably to North Korea is not exactly the thing that you should be doing. But you do you.

[Masterofreality]

The mullahs and Iranians governing the country are batshit crazy, but a lot of Iranians/Iranian-Americans I've worked with and met are some of the more generous people you'll ever meet.

And the “people”’have zero to do with this discussion. Those that are hellbent on destroying Israel and the US do.

[paulxu]

Note: They never stopped. “Naturally hid their efforts”. What the hell respectable country does that Paul, unless they are going to be aggressors?? Holy Toledo!!

What a Masterclass of naiveity and Misinformation. Comparing Iran favorably to North Korea is not exactly the thing that you should be doing. But you do you.

If you watched a foreign country invade your neighbor, who called you part of the axis of evil...you would be worried about being invaded and hide you efforts.
My comparison of Iran to N. Korea was to show they have many more resources (oil) thank N. Korea so are more able to weather sanctions.
N. Korea had sanctions and developed a nuclear weapon. Sanctions aren't stopping Iran.
We had a chance with the JCPOA and inspections.
(here I refrain from name calling as it is not productive to understanding of the issues.)