Politics Thread

[paulxu]

Paul why do you continue to carry water for a terrorist murderous regime that reeks havoc all through the Persian Gulf, and for a former Administration who’s Foreign Policy failures are numerous?

You want a world where Iran is enriching uranium towards weapons grade because we didn't honor a deal our country struck, so Trump could play dictator like those he so admires?
Or do you want a world where people agree to reduce the threat of nuclear war and have an agreement that allows inspectors from the IAEA to monitor what goes on at the facilities.
That seems like an easy answer.

[Strange Brew]

And that’s one of the major problems now. Both sides pander to the lunatic fringe on both sides of the aisle, while not caring about most of the country that falls in between.


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Elon Musk posted an interesting and funny sketch on where he has always stood and where things have gone which make him look right wing now.

[Masterofreality]

You want a world where Iran is enriching uranium towards weapons grade because we didn't honor a deal our country struck, so Trump could play dictator like those he so admires?
Or do you want a world where people agree to reduce the threat of nuclear war and have an agreement that allows inspectors from the IAEA to monitor what goes on at the facilities.
That seems like an easy answer.

Iran never stopped enriching uranium. They just moved it to places that couldn’t be seen. Iran doesn’t play by the world’s “principles”. (See Putin)
You are carrying water for proven Terrorists Paul. Ridiculous.
Weapon=2031 or earlier.

[noteggs]

Has anyone looked at their investments lately (or pick your weekly crises)? Already taking in the a** with inflation. And good gawd, we are talking about Trump again. Good times!

[paulxu]

Iran never stopped enriching uranium. They just moved it to places that couldn’t be seen. Iran doesn’t play by the world’s “principles”. (See Putin)
You are carrying water for proven Terrorists Paul. Ridiculous.
Weapon=2031 or earlier.

How can we have a reasonable discussion?
If they are hiding enrichment do you want to be on the outside looking in?
Or, on the ground with inspectors in the country.
Do you even understand the mistake we made in Iraq?
You read one opinion from a guy who is pushing the hawk side of foreign policy without ever bothering to read up on the facts.
It's disheartening.

[Strange Brew]

How can we have a reasonable discussion?
If they are hiding enrichment do you want to be on the outside looking in?
Or, on the ground with inspectors in the country.
Do you even understand the mistake we made in Iraq?
You read one opinion from a guy who is pushing the hawk side of foreign policy without ever bothering to read up on the facts.
It's disheartening.

What did we give up for the inspectors is a question I haven't seen you answer or ponder.

[xuphan]

Serious question. What POLICIES of the former President do you find extreme?

Also, the current POTUS just killed drilling leases in Alaska and the Gulf while gas prices are at records. That's either extreme or extremely dumb.

Serious question. What POLICIES of the former President do you find extreme?

Also, the current POTUS just killed drilling leases in Alaska and the Gulf while gas prices are at records. That's either extreme or extremely dumb.

My dislike for Trump has nothing to do with policies. I actually agree with some of his policies and ideas. However, there is more to be a president. The way he conducts himself is in my opinion the reason why he lost the previous election. The mocking of a disabled reporter. Saying multiple times as a campaign promise that Mexico would pay for a southern wall to be constructed. Said he would “drain the swamp” though it seems like the swamp has grown with more gators. The inability to work with members on the other party (Sorry but that’s your job as a politician). The insults and derogatory comments to main stay republicans like Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney, Lindsay Graham, John McCain, etc. The phony “stop the steal” campaign after losing to Joe Biden. It says a lot about his presidency that he lost to Joe Biden. I also find it amusing that the “states” in question for voter fraud are only states that Democrats won. Seems like a strange coincidence. Telling the American public about that you will release your taxes only to be fighting tooth and nail not to have them released. Why tell the American people if you were never going to do follow through with what you said? You also have Jan 6th and Russia which resulted in 2 impeachments. Has never happened in this country before. Policy isn’t the only thing that makes a president though I am sure everything above is Fake News and the Earth is flat.

So tell me why some conservatives are in love with this man? A former Clinton donor and supporter. A man who degraded the military service of Republican John McCain because McCain. The things he said about McCain were unacceptable coming from a man who dodged the draft himself. Are you ok with him conducting himself like this? Do the conservatives not have any better options than Donald Trump? If 2024 turns into a Joe Biden vs Donald Trump rematch, I am going to write in Strange Brew for my vote.

Also, Joe Biden’s bad policies are a reflection of Joe Biden. It doesn’t change the fact that Trump was not a good president. It just shows that both men suck. Do better Democrats and Republicans. Get better people to run for president.

[paulxu]

What did we give up for the inspectors is a question I haven't seen you answer or ponder.

Not quite sure what you are asking. Can't find your original question, only this. Maybe I didn't go back far enough.

As to the drilling leases, there are over 9,000 unused leases. The oil companies aren't starting to drill on them because they are making so much money with what they've got. Do that, and then worry about Alaska.

[Masterofreality]

How can we have a reasonable discussion?
If they are hiding enrichment do you want to be on the outside looking in?
Or, on the ground with inspectors in the country.
Do you even understand the mistake we made in Iraq?
You read one opinion from a guy who is pushing the hawk side of foreign policy without ever bothering to read up on the facts.
It's disheartening.

“An Opinion from One Guy”. A guy who has always been right in his analyses before. Did you even read the preamble about him before the Essay?
“Facts” as you call them are nothing more than Parroting the side you WANT to be correct, even when it isn’t.
“Inspectors in the Country” won’t be traveling deep into hidden mountain caves because Iran won’t ever disclose their locations.
I once again submit that you are blatantly ignoring Iran’s terrorism and excusing their behavior just to get a “Deal” done- even if it is garbage.
You Obama and Biden negotiate in hopes. Hopes that the other side will act in good faith rather than realpolitik. Iran NEVER has negotiated in good faith and they still hate America, hate Israel and side with Putin and Xi.
No Paul. Stop your delusions.

[Masterofreality]

What did we give up for the inspectors is a question I haven't seen you answer or ponder.

Not quite sure what you are asking. Can't find your original question, only this. Maybe I didn't go back far enough.

As to the drilling leases, there are over 9,000 unused leases. The oil companies aren't starting to drill on them because they are making so much money with what they've got. Do that, and then worry about Alaska.

Isn’t it amazing that whenever Paul is asked a direct question his comeback is “I’m not quite sure what you are asking” then stays away from the topic completely?