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    Supporting Member GoMuskies's Avatar
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    The Voting Rights Act has not been overturned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noteggs View Post
    Yes spin on both sides. It would be nice to see how judge and court of appeals agreed and came up with a without a reasonable doubt decision.

    Curious and not trying to be confrontational, but where did you here “she both did not know that a condition of her supervised release was that she could not vote” if you didn’t see the ruling?
    Good question, I read the 8-1 appeals opinion she lost. That is the only one I found. One item they ruled on was whether intent mattered because of the Tom Delay ruling from a few years earlier.

    Please read it, I am not a lawyer so I could have easily misinterpreted something. I do read quite a few a year though but only from the top court and in cases that are notable.

    Side note, I agree with a previous poster that outright media bias has gotten way out of hand. I agree that the worst are the leading article titles when the article itself fails to deliver. News today is about clicks and not necessarily the pure truth. I regularly read NPR, Vice, and Fox. I have to sift through large amounts of bias to get to a real report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    The Voting Rights Act has not been overturned.
    Shelby County v Holder allowed southern states to gradually pass election laws without federal approval that do what they please.

    On a KU forum, an Atlanta resident checked and the county drop boxes went from like 94 to 23 and inside a government building that cannot be accessed after hours. He asked that boards conservatives how that helped election integrity. Normally this law would need federal approval but not anymore. States can now pass this in minority filled areas as they please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    The Voting Rights Act has not been overturned.
    You are correct. They ruled unconstitutional the main provision that prevented states from suppressing voting...which they promptly set about doing again, and are still doing.
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    It was well beyond time for those preapproval provisions to fall off in a federal system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad View Post
    Shelby County v Holder allowed southern states to gradually pass election laws without federal approval that do what they please.

    On a KU forum, an Atlanta resident checked and the county drop boxes went from like 94 to 23 and inside a government building that cannot be accessed after hours. He asked that boards conservatives how that helped election integrity. Normally this law would need federal approval but not anymore. States can now pass this in minority filled areas as they please.
    States control their own election laws per the Constitution. GA voters through their elected representatives exercised their right to limit the number of drop boxes because, they can. AZ voters can do what they think works for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    You are correct. They ruled unconstitutional the main provision that prevented states from suppressing voting...which they promptly set about doing again, and are still doing.
    What do you consider voter suppression? It’s a vague loaded term these days.

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    I think it's obvious the trump conspiracy theorists running the 4th AZ recount at some taxpayer expense will magically find trump won the election there. This is how totally nuts things are now along with the Cheney ouster. If you don't support the "BIG LIE", you can't get elected in the primaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    What do you consider voter suppression? It’s a vague loaded term these days.
    Well, 94 vs. 23 for drop boxes and making citizens park downtown to get to one I consider voter suppression. All of us who live in or near big cities know how fun it is to park downtown.

    Illegals aren't voting. We know this, so why all the the election changes across the country in Republican states? What would your gut tell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad View Post
    Well, 94 vs. 23 for drop boxes and making citizens park downtown to get to one I consider voter suppression. All of us who live in or near big cities know how fun it is to park downtown.

    Illegals aren't voting. We know this, so why all the the election changes across the country in Republican states? What would your gut tell you.
    My gut tells me it's not unreasonable to ask people to go somewhere to drop a piece of paper in a box.

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