Politics Thread

[Muskie in dayton]

Why are you liberals so racist as to think black people are incapable of obtaining a form of ID?

[xu82]

Biden says the Masters can stay in Georgia. Whew, I was worried.

WOW! Dodged a bullet there! Those guys who can throw the greatest event in golf without worrying about having any advertisers were probably trembling in the boots!

[ArizonaXUGrad]

So the narrative was originally, Colorado is more strict and worse than Georgia when comparing voting laws but has now shifted to fake outrage and why do you need to offer as many as 16 forms of ID to register to vote.

Got it. I consider the goal posts officially moved after the Colorado is worse than Georgia narrative completely failed. I applaud the effort.

[xu82]

I admit I haven’t studied this, even living in Georgia. Voting is so damn easy, if you can’t hit that bar maybe you shouldn’t be allowed to vote. We just mailed it in. How hard is that? No ID required (though I think that is reasonable). Just mailed it in. If you are incapable of a little planning, I don’t think you deserve to decide our future. Take your own water or pizza. I don’t like the idea of buying votes for treats. There is no reason to wait in lines regardless.

What am I missing that is so horrible? I’m honest, I’m apparently missing the point. Gov Kemp seems like a clown, but I don’t understand the hate on this. Help me understand the hate, please. My wife hates it, and she’s a smart lady, but she can’t tell me what is so awful about it.


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[xu82]

Why are you liberals so racist as to think black people are incapable of obtaining a form of ID?

Not going the race path, but the state of Georgia has said they will make ID free for everyone. That is NOT an impediment to voting if you want to vote.

[bjf123]

My wife hates it, and she’s a smart lady, but she can’t tell me what is so awful about it.

And therein lies the problem. Too many people are just parroting the Democrat’s talking points. They don’t know why it’s bad, but the Left and the media are saying it is, so it must be true.


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[paulxu]

I admit I haven’t studied this, even living in Georgia. Voting is so damn easy, if you can’t hit that bar maybe you shouldn’t be allowed to vote. We just mailed it in. How hard is that? No ID required (though I think that is reasonable). Just mailed it in. If you are incapable of a little planning, I don’t think you deserve to decide our future. Take your own water or pizza. I don’t like the idea of buying votes for treats. There is no reason to wait in lines regardless.

What am I missing that is so horrible? I’m honest, I’m apparently missing the point. Gov Kemp seems like a clown, but I don’t understand the hate on this. Help me understand the hate, please. My wife hates it, and she’s a smart lady, but she can’t tell me what is so awful about it.

I can't help you with your wife (!), but here's a couple of thoughts.
In some ways the new law helped voting: drop boxes in rural areas, studying and reacting to long waiting lines, an extra early voting day

In other ways it didn't help.
-Reduced drop box numbers in populous counties and put them inside the voting location, instead of outside.
-They were using signature match on mail in ballots...now you have to provide another form of ID with the ballot.
(If you had registered to vote with an ID, put your signature on file, it was matched to your mail in ballot. Now you'll have to send in another ID with the ballot. Unlike Colorado, who can apparently match signatures with no problem for all the people there who use mail in ballots successfully)
-Georgia's population has grown 25% in the last 20 years (8 to 10 million). The number of precincts to vote has been reduced by 10%; this may explain the very long wait lines in some areas to vote in person.
-Across the South, with the population steadily increasing in many states like Georgia, since the Supreme Court threw out pre-clearance of voting law changes, the number of polling places has been cut by 1,200.
-After standing in lines for hours on election day, if you were in line at 7 PM, you could still vote. The average wait time (after being in line for a long time) was 51 more minutes in black precincts...6 minutes in white precincts.

Maybe a good answer is to have a national holiday for voting like many countries do.

[Xville]

I can't help you with your wife (!), but here's a couple of thoughts.
In some ways the new law helped voting: drop boxes in rural areas, studying and reacting to long waiting lines, an extra early voting day

In other ways it didn't help.
-Reduced drop box numbers in populous counties and put them inside the voting location, instead of outside.
-They were using signature match on mail in ballots...now you have to provide another form of ID with the ballot.
(If you had registered to vote with an ID, put your signature on file, it was matched to your mail in ballot. Now you'll have to send in another ID with the ballot. Unlike Colorado, who can apparently match signatures with no problem for all the people there who use mail in ballots successfully)
-Georgia's population has grown 25% in the last 20 years (8 to 10 million). The number of precincts to vote has been reduced by 10%; this may explain the very long wait lines in some areas to vote in person.
-Across the South, with the population steadily increasing in many states like Georgia, since the Supreme Court threw out pre-clearance of voting law changes, the number of polling places has been cut by 1,200.
-After standing in lines for hours on election day, if you were in line at 7 PM, you could still vote. The average wait time (after being in line for a long time) was 51 more minutes in black precincts...6 minutes in white precincts.

Maybe a good answer is to have a national holiday for voting like many countries do.

Or just early vote or mail in vote or vote in any of the other numerous options that are available. Again, this is fake outrage just to rile up the liberal base, just like trump does/did on the other side to say that the other side is basically Satan coming back to earth. The media perpetuates the false narrative and most of the public falls for it.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Or just early vote or mail in vote or vote in any of the other numerous options that are available. Again, this is fake outrage just to rile up the liberal base, just like trump does/did on the other side to say that the other side is basically Satan coming back to earth. The media perpetuates the false narrative and most of the public falls for it.

So you are saying a state like Colorado that mails a ballot to all registered voters could be a good thing? Maybe a company who is allowed to make their own decisions like moving an All-Star game should bring light to this. Oh wait!

Ncaa threatened to move out of Indianapolis when they stupidly passed their “religious liberty” law. That didn’t go well for Indiana.

[Xville]

So you are saying a state like Colorado that mails a ballot to all registered voters could be a good thing? Maybe a company who is allowed to make their own decisions like moving an All-Star game should bring light to this. Oh wait!

Ncaa threatened to move out of Indianapolis when they stupidly passed their “religious liberty” law. That didn’t go well for Indiana.

Nothing of what I said has anything to do with Colorado. I’m saying that people like yourself have fake outrage over legislation that is essentially a nothing burger, or maybe that’s my white privilege talking. . If mlb wants to be all “woke,” grandstand, and screw an entire city of revenue that’s their prerogative.

Oh and of course you have a problem with people’s stances on religion that are different from your own...shocking. You are all for businesses making their own decisions right? Well, as long as their opinion shares yours. The left way.