Politics Thread

**boozehound** · 02-12-2021, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Xville

Why? I don't.....i do expect 90% of them to be complete buffoons and egotistical a holes though.

I honestly don't know how to answer that. We take one person and elect them to the highest office in the land. The reasonable expectation, I would think, is that they are the best and most qualified. With responsibility comes accountability.

It's the same principle in business. I hold my sales directors to a much higher standard than I hold my sales reps to. In pretty much every way. You don't like it, stay a sales rep. I expect leadership from my directors, just like I do from my President.

xuwillie · 02-12-2021, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee

Well, you have your wonderful pack of of liars in Hawley, Graham and Cruz to steer the party. Looks like Haley has come to her senses.

Think we can all agree most politicians LIE. Not sure we are having the same argument here

Mrs. Garrett · 02-12-2021, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by boozehound

Sure. Absolutely. I'll give you Pelosi, too.

I continue to think it's a completely ridiculous false equivalency though, as I at least, have a different standard of conduct for the President than I do for members of Congress.

I think I have the same standard for Congress that I do for the Presidency. We just had a President leave office who spent most of his time golfing and tweeting conspiracy theories. We have a freshman House Member who believes the wild fires were started by not ordinary lasers, but Jewish Space Lasers. We've got AOC and Bernie who think we should just hand everything to everyone. Somehow the fringe elements of both parties seem to be winning.

Politics needs to move back to the middle and work on solutions that are feasible.

I'm most disgusted that politicians, who were there aren't taking the attack on the Capitol seriously. To me they are traitors. Some of them were co-conspirators. And tired of the comparisons to the BLM protests on some shitty street in Kenosha. If Congress isn't made up of patriots then we're pretty much screwed.

**bobbiemcgee** · 02-12-2021, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by xuwillie

Think we can all agree most politicians LIE

Still supporting the "Big LIE" with Hawley, Graham and Cruz, I assume?

**GoMuskies** · 02-13-2021, 04:35 PM

Impeachment 2.0 ends pretty much the same way as Impeachment 1.0. I'm shocked.

**waggy** · 02-13-2021, 08:51 PM

Saw a headline that Bernie Sanders has called the MLB greedy for cutting a bunch of minor league teams.

**boozehound** · 02-16-2021, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Impeachment 2.0 ends pretty much the same way as Impeachment 1.0. I'm shocked.

I do think McConnell's speech after the fact was interesting. They are clearly trying to set the stage for a situation in which they don't alienate Trump's base too much by convicting him, but also don't allow Senators in purple states to get tied too directly to supporting Trump's actions. We won't really know until 2022 if it works for them, and a lot of it probably hinges on how things go between now and then for Biden as well as what Trump does between now and then.

I still remain skeptical that they can control Trump over any long time horizon. The list of people that have trusted Trump and gotten burned appears much longer than the list of people who he hasn't screwed over.

bleedXblue · 02-16-2021, 08:01 AM

Trump running again would be a colossal mistake. He has a great base, but he is also hated by the left and his act has grown stale. All he had to do was play the game, get off Twitter and treat COVID with a little more seriousness and compassion.

The next pair that runs can play off many of Trump's policies that still and will always appeal to many American's.