Politics Thread

[Snipe]

Forgot about the pardoning - what about the election shenanigans? Can you imagine if Obama had told people he he might not leave office, and flirted with the idea of declaring martial law while consistently calling the election fraudulent. People would be losing their minds.

This shit is getting super crazy. Even Bill Barr is off the Trump train. Mitch has now acknowledged the election. The only people left are complete lunatics like Michael Flynn and Sidney Powell. I'm curious to see how this goes as Trump tries to 'burn it all down' on his way out the door. He is already angry at sane Republicans for not being 'loyal' enough to him. What is he going to do after he leaves office, and how will it impact the Republican party? How will it impact the country?

Remember: Trump was never really a Republican, and he has no loyalty to anybody. I don't think he cares one bit if he divides Republicans. If he can find a way to break off about 10MM or so Republicans and monetize them I can't imagine he would think twice about doing that.

Obama used the intelligence agencies to investigate Trump. We have already crossed the Rubicon. It is over.

[paulxu]

There sure were a lot of guilty people working for, and around, this president.

[bobbiemcgee]

Defund the military? Brilliant. Covid? Not interested. Shut down the country? Could care less. 31 golf vacations costing us 152 million. Good. Pardons for murderers who shot 8 and 11 yr.old kids in the head. Very good.

[paulxu]

Signs of the times:

Rupert Murdoch's NY Post decides that Trump may be insane and a loser, while noting that “Sidney Powell is a crazy person,” the board asserted. “Michael Flynn suggesting martial law is tantamount to treason.”

https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-i...d-the-nations/

In other news, Louie Gomhert decided to round up some other nut jobs and sue Mike Pence. Fascinating.

[boozehound]

Isn't that the completely separate omnibus spending bill that has the Sudan money?

I believe that is accurate. Not the same bill - the COVID bill is pretty much all COVID related spending. I'm not sure where the confusion got started between the two, but my guess would be twitter.

Regarding sending $ to people, it would seem that sending a larger amount to just the people really hurting (maybe the bottom 10-20% of households) would be much more effective. Relieve the worse stress and the money would almost all go directly back into the economy for food, rent, etc.

I know...wishful thinking.

That's what I have been screaming. Lots of people are getting money that don't need it, and lots of other people need a lot more help than they are getting. Many people are financially unaffected by this - and not just rich people. Plenty of lower income workers have not been impacted at all either. Sure, they could always use $600, but they don't need it now anymore than they did before COVID. Contrast that to many people in service sectors that have lost almost all of their income.

That's not even getting into small business owners who can't draw unemployment and have in many cases been essentially shut down by COVID. Think bar owners, for example. I'd like to see them getting even more help, instead of some dude who hasn't taken a hit getting $600.

Signs of the times:

Rupert Murdoch's NY Post decides that Trump may be insane and a loser, while noting that “Sidney Powell is a crazy person,” the board asserted. “Michael Flynn suggesting martial law is tantamount to treason.”

https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-i...d-the-nations/

In other news, Louie Gomhert decided to round up some other nut jobs and sue Mike Pence. Fascinating.

So many flag waving 'patriots' are being pretty quiet about this attempted coup. Makes you think.

[paulxu]

So many flag waving 'patriots' are being pretty quiet about this attempted coup. Makes you think.

They're on their way to DC for Jan 6th. Trump said it "will be wild."
We're like a 3rd rate, tinpot dictatorship, with our president insisting everyday that the election was a fraud.
Dozens of lawsuits later, and no proof of any fraud, and he's urging people to ignore and overturn the certified election results.
If it wasn't so scary for democracy it would be laughable.
Hopefully will make it through the next few weeks without any violence.

[bjf123]

I believe that is accurate. Not the same bill - the COVID bill is pretty much all COVID related spending. I'm not sure where the confusion got started between the two, but my guess would be twitter.



That's what I have been screaming. Lots of people are getting money that don't need it, and lots of other people need a lot more help than they are getting. Many people are financially unaffected by this - and not just rich people. Plenty of lower income workers have not been impacted at all either. Sure, they could always use $600, but they don't need it now anymore than they did before COVID. Contrast that to many people in service sectors that have lost almost all of their income.

That's not even getting into small business owners who can't draw unemployment and have in many cases been essentially shut down by COVID. Think bar owners, for example. I'd like to see them getting even more help, instead of some dude who hasn't taken a hit getting $600.



So many flag waving 'patriots' are being pretty quiet about this attempted coup. Makes you think.

Agreed. I’m very lucky in that I’ve been financially unaffected by COVID. My employer is having a record year and has been hiring people. My wife works two part time jobs doing things she loves. One was shut down for a few months, so we missed that income, but it was less than $500 a month. It hurt a little, but it wasn’t that big of a deal.

If they want to give us another $1,200, I’ll certainly take it. If they want to keep it and give more to those who’ve really been impacted, that’s a much better idea and I really won’t miss it. The issue is how do you determine who gets the extra?


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[bobbiemcgee]

In other news, Louie Gomhert decided to round up some other nut jobs and sue Mike Pence. Fascinating.

Pence shutting down lyin' louie.

[Strange Brew]

Antifa firebombed a police station. Clearly a terrorist organization similar to SDS.

[paulxu]

Lin Wood makes a strong bid to out Kraken the Kraken;

Lin Wood
@LLinWood
Replying to @Courie85 @VP and 2 others
If Pence is arrested, @SecPompeo will save the election. Pence will be in jail awaiting trial for treason. He will face execution by firing squad. He is a coward & will sing like a bird & confess ALL.
1:02 PM · Jan 1, 2021