Politics Thread

[Muskie in dayton]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Look up the LAW:


"The defendant, if he did not provoke the assault, is not obliged to retreat or flee to save his life, but may stand his ground, and even, in some circumstances, pursue his assailant until the latter has been disarmed or disabled from carrying into effect his unlawful purpose, and this right of the defendant goes even to the extent, if necessary, of taking human life. Boykin v. People, 22 Colo. 496, 45 P. 419 (1896); Enyart v. People, 67 Colo. 434, 180 P. 722 (1919)."

The victim would have been charged with ASSAULT AGAIN if he had survived.

Thanks for the law lesson Prof. Obvious. I never argued that the idiot who was shot wasn't committing assault (he did), but it's irrelevant to the question at-hand, which you are really struggling with. Since you won't admit it, I'll go ahead and answer. Punching, macing or otherwise assaulting someone does NOT give them the right to kill them.

[paulxu]

MOR, I'm not sure you understand the cumulative impact of the last 4 years of his rhetoric.
But if you're at all interested, here's a lengthy recap. Hope you'll stop to digest it.

https://www.vox.com/21506029/trump-v...st-hate-speech

[XU_Lou]

I just wanted to wish all my Dem friends on this board a Happy Columbus Day!

[XU_Lou]

MOR, I'm not sure you understand the cumulative impact of the last 4 years of his rhetoric.
But if you're at all interested, here's a lengthy recap. Hope you'll stop to digest it.

https://www.vox.com/21506029/trump-v...st-hate-speech

You're worried about rhetoric, but not the cumulative impact of Socialism? This is why no one on this board takes you seriously....

[Smails]

Again, you ignored the entire premise in that both sides own where we are.

Paul- Does the left have any culpability in the breakdown of political discourse in our society, or is this strictly a Trump and his supporters issue?

[noteggs]

Based on what I'm seeing in Committee, ACB is getting confirmed pretty easily. The attacks are weak. All about the ACA. That's not preventing anyone from getting confirmed to the Supreme Court.

Thought the same. Started to watch the Supreme Court hearing and a Obamacare debate broke out.

Even heard Blumenthal state today: “The right wants to use the Supreme Court to legislate from the bench.” I’m sorry but what???

[paulxu]

Paul- Does the left have any culpability in the breakdown of political discourse in our society, or is this strictly a Trump and his supporters issue?

Certainly there are supporters on what you describe as "the left" that share in the breakdown of civility in our discourse...and actions.
I'm tired of saying I don't condone the violence and unlawful acts of those you would describe as the left, nor do I approve whenever they contribute to the breakdown of the discourse.
But no leader on the Democrat side, thankfully, can boast of the track record of the president as outlined in that article, if you read it.
Attacking the media and urging violence by your supporters is a fascist sort of action that no true leader of a democracy should employ.

[X Factor]

What do you know, Biden tells another lie about his life..."claims he got raised in the Black church".

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_mor...claims-church/

Plagiarized in the 80's and had to drop out of the Dem primaries (also failed a law class at Syracuse in '65 for plagiarising)
Lied about marching in the Civil Rights Movement
Lied about graduating at the top of his class in law school (the truth is practically the bottom)
Lied about being the first in his family to go to college
Lied about his ancestors working in the Pennsylvania coal mines for 12 hours a day
Lied about being arrested in the '70's while trying to visit Nelson Mandela in prison
Lied about becoming a teacher and professor after his time as Vice President (never happened, just got paid a lot of money to give speeches)

[Smails]

Certainly there are supporters on what you describe as "the left" that share in the breakdown of civility in our discourse...and actions.
I'm tired of saying I don't condone the violence and unlawful acts of those you would describe as the left, nor do I approve whenever they contribute to the breakdown of the discourse.

Look what happens when I take the "yeah but" part of your response. It actually looks like a direct answer to the question I posed. Personally, I'm more of a 'sticks and stones' who has really never been offended by someone's words. But that's just me. I tend to see better than I hear and I'll be damned if a politician's rhetoric is going to influence my actions.

One funny think about the hit piece (and please don't be naive to think it's anything more) is one of the specific examples cited was when Trump told a crowd that if they saw people throwing things at him that they should knock the hell out of them. How would you react if someone standing next to you threw something at the President of the United States? Would you let it happen?

[Smails]

But no leader on the Democrat side, thankfully, can boast of the track record of the president as outlined in that article, if you read it.
Attacking the media and urging violence by your supporters is a fascist sort of action that no true leader of a democracy should employ.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/s...97571538640901

https://scalise.house.gov/press-rele...fox-news-op-ed


Still think this is just a Trump problem?