Politics Thread

[bobbiemcgee]

trump jacked up his DC hotel prices to 800-2000 a night but he's not profiting from the presidency.

[Smails]

so a vote for trump would be represented by the "very fine people in Charlottesville?"...and QAnon candidates?

Crazies on both sides.

Could you imagine if Charlottesville went on for 80 straight days/nights...and in 10 different cities? 99% of the people on the planet (sans DJT which was completely ridiculous), democrats and republicans, loudly denounced what went on in Charlottesville. Why in the world is the left so silent on what is happening in our cities? No mention of the violence in Biden's 'earth shattering speech' the other night. Why is the BLM movement not denouncing the way their message is being bastardized? I think there are 2 possible answers. 1) They like the chaos and are willing to watch cities be destroyed if it means ousting the President...or 2) They're cowards too afraid to commit political suicide and are sitting on the sidelines watching people suffer.

[bobbiemcgee]

Reasons not to vote for trump

43 million Americans filed unemployment claims in the last 20 weeks.
13 million jobs lost since assuming office.
Oversaw 14.7% U-3 unemployment rate.
Oversaw 19.7% real U-3 unemployment rate.
Oversaw 22.8% U-6 unemployment rate.
Oversaw 23.7% of the workforce unemployed.
More than doubled black unemployment.
Tripled Hispanic unemployment.
Tripled Asian unemployment.
Tripled women unemployment.
Tripled white unemployment.
Nearly tripled youth unemployment.
Tripled the official unemployment rate.
26 trillion national debt.
Oversaw the end of the longest economic expansion in history.
5% GDP contraction for Q1 2020.
Increased taxes on 10 million+ Americans.
Projected $3.7+ trillion deficit for 2020.
Projected 5.6% GDP contraction for 2020.
Projected to add $6.5 trillion to national debt in one-term.
Highest unemployment rate in 80 years and since the Great Depression.
Signed a $2 trillion tax cut bill that gives 83% of benefits to the top 1% and large corporations.
tax cut was to increase GDP and reduce deficit. It didn't
20,000+ public lies since taking office.
3,000+ current conflicts of interest.
3,500+ lawsuits filed.
Cut 700,000 poor people from food stamps.
Committed 10’s of impeachable offenses.
Impeached president.
Administration with the most criminal indictments in U.S history.
Called African countries “shithole” countries.
Mocked a disabled reporter.
Called a group with Nazis “fine people”.
Started a fake university to exploit students.
Shifted kids-cancer charity money to his business.
25 women have accused the president of sexual misconduct.
Openly bragged about sexual assault “Grab ‘em by the pussy”.
Paid off a porn star he slept with while Melania was pregnant with Barron.
Has appointed the most billionaires to administrative positions in U.S history.
Says John McCain wasn’t a war hero because he was “captured”.
Made a personal donor with no experience head of the Post Office.
Appointed the most partisan and corrupt attorney general in U.S history.
Appointed an attorney general who reversed civil rights protections for transgender people in the workplace.
Implemented a ban on transgender people from serving in the military.
Attempted to cut HUD funding for affordable public housing.
Trying to dismantle the Post Office to win election
55%% of the country disapproves of Trump.
Refers to women he doesn’t like as "fat pigs," "slobs," “dogs," and “nasty”.
Had a close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
Accused a senior who was severally injured by police of a “fake fall” and being in “Antifa”.
Signed an executive order that hurt social media companies after having a tweet fact-checked.
Claims to be a self-made billionaire when he actually inherited $413 million from his father.
Caused the longest government shutdown in American history.
Still hasn’t released his tax returns.
Assisted the Saudis in covering up Khashoggi’s murder.
Denies climate change.
Drastically increased oil and gas production.
Unwound 50 years of environmental regulation protections.
Withdrew from the Paris Climate Accord.
Made a climate-denier head of the EPA.
On track to drastically expand offshore oil drilling.
Increased annual military spending by $130 billion.
Increased drone strikes by 432%.
Abandoned the Kurds in Syria.
Almost started a war with Iran.
Withdrew from the Iran Nuclear Deal
Has dropped 10,000’s of bombs in the Middle East.
Had BLM protestors teargassed so he could pose for a bible photo-opt.
Executively started a trade war with no strategy.
Called Mexican immigrants “criminals” and “rapists”.
Put restrictions on legal immigration.
Has begun the removal of protections for Dreamers.
Keeping 70,000 migrant children in custody as well as cages.
Gave more power to ICE.
Separated deported immigrant children from their families.
Picked an education secretary who’s out to gut public education.
Picked an education secretary who increased protections for those accused of sexual assault.
Attempted to cut the Department of Education’s budget for the fourth consecutive year.
Repealed Net Neutrality.
50 million more Americans are projected to be uninsured for healthcare.
Deliberately raised ACA premiums for 7.3 million people.
Lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes in 2016.
5 million coronavirus cases.
175,000 coronavirus deaths.
Most coronavirus cases of any other country.
Most coronavirus deaths of any other country.
Cut the CDC budget in both 2018 and 2019.
Encouraged people to drink chloroquine to fight the coronavirus.
Encouraged people to inject disinfectants to fight the coronavirus.

- mostly sourced from Reddit posts

[X-man]

Could you imagine if Charlottesville went on for 80 straight days/nights...and in 10 different cities? 99% of the people on the planet (sans DJT which was completely ridiculous), democrats and republicans, loudly denounced what went on in Charlottesville. Why in the world is the left so silent on what is happening in our cities? No mention of the violence in Biden's 'earth shattering speech' the other night. Why is the BLM movement not denouncing the way their message is being bastardized? I think there are 2 possible answers. 1) They like the chaos and are willing to watch cities be destroyed if it means ousting the President...or 2) They're cowards too afraid to commit political suicide and are sitting on the sidelines watching people suffer.

Actually the protesters, including Black Lives Matter protesters, have denounced the looters and the violent. As much as Trump and the right would like you to believe that they are one and the same, they are not. And there are not, as someone once said, "fine people on both sides".

[X Factor]

Thank you Bobbie for letting us know that you cannot be taken seriously, and you have no intentions of being intellectually honest.

Trump will be re-elected. He will get more Black and Hispanic votes than in '16. The Libs, like yourself, and the media, will continue to scream racism. It's so predictable.

You're going to vote for a old, senile man with 50 years of political experience without a damn thing to show for it. Yet you think he's going to "make it all better".

[Xville]

Reasons not to vote for trump

43 million Americans filed unemployment claims in the last 20 weeks.
13 million jobs lost since assuming office.
Oversaw 14.7% U-3 unemployment rate.
Oversaw 19.7% real U-3 unemployment rate.
Oversaw 22.8% U-6 unemployment rate.
Oversaw 23.7% of the workforce unemployed.
More than doubled black unemployment.
Tripled Hispanic unemployment.
Tripled Asian unemployment.
Tripled women unemployment.
Tripled white unemployment.
Nearly tripled youth unemployment.
Tripled the official unemployment rate.
26 trillion national debt.
Oversaw the end of the longest economic expansion in history.
5% GDP contraction for Q1 2020.
Increased taxes on 10 million+ Americans.
Projected $3.7+ trillion deficit for 2020.
Projected 5.6% GDP contraction for 2020.
Projected to add $6.5 trillion to national debt in one-term.
Highest unemployment rate in 80 years and since the Great Depression.
Signed a $2 trillion tax cut bill that gives 83% of benefits to the top 1% and large corporations.
tax cut was to increase GDP and reduce deficit. It didn't
20,000+ public lies since taking office.
3,000+ current conflicts of interest.
3,500+ lawsuits filed.
Cut 700,000 poor people from food stamps.
Committed 10’s of impeachable offenses.
Impeached president.
Administration with the most criminal indictments in U.S history.
Called African countries “shithole” countries.
Mocked a disabled reporter.
Called a group with Nazis “fine people”.
Started a fake university to exploit students.
Shifted kids-cancer charity money to his business.
25 women have accused the president of sexual misconduct.
Openly bragged about sexual assault “Grab ‘em by the pussy”.
Paid off a porn star he slept with while Melania was pregnant with Barron.
Has appointed the most billionaires to administrative positions in U.S history.
Says John McCain wasn’t a war hero because he was “captured”.
Made a personal donor with no experience head of the Post Office.
Appointed the most partisan and corrupt attorney general in U.S history.
Appointed an attorney general who reversed civil rights protections for transgender people in the workplace.
Implemented a ban on transgender people from serving in the military.
Attempted to cut HUD funding for affordable public housing.
Trying to dismantle the Post Office to win election
55%% of the country disapproves of Trump.
Refers to women he doesn’t like as "fat pigs," "slobs," “dogs," and “nasty”.
Had a close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
Accused a senior who was severally injured by police of a “fake fall” and being in “Antifa”.
Signed an executive order that hurt social media companies after having a tweet fact-checked.
Claims to be a self-made billionaire when he actually inherited $413 million from his father.
Caused the longest government shutdown in American history.
Still hasn’t released his tax returns.
Assisted the Saudis in covering up Khashoggi’s murder.
Denies climate change.
Drastically increased oil and gas production.
Unwound 50 years of environmental regulation protections.
Withdrew from the Paris Climate Accord.
Made a climate-denier head of the EPA.
On track to drastically expand offshore oil drilling.
Increased annual military spending by $130 billion.
Increased drone strikes by 432%.
Abandoned the Kurds in Syria.
Almost started a war with Iran.
Withdrew from the Iran Nuclear Deal
Has dropped 10,000’s of bombs in the Middle East.
Had BLM protestors teargassed so he could pose for a bible photo-opt.
Executively started a trade war with no strategy.
Called Mexican immigrants “criminals” and “rapists”.
Put restrictions on legal immigration.
Has begun the removal of protections for Dreamers.
Keeping 70,000 migrant children in custody as well as cages.
Gave more power to ICE.
Separated deported immigrant children from their families.
Picked an education secretary who’s out to gut public education.
Picked an education secretary who increased protections for those accused of sexual assault.
Attempted to cut the Department of Education’s budget for the fourth consecutive year.
Repealed Net Neutrality.
50 million more Americans are projected to be uninsured for healthcare.
Deliberately raised ACA premiums for 7.3 million people.
Lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes in 2016.
5 million coronavirus cases.
175,000 coronavirus deaths.
Most coronavirus cases of any other country.
Most coronavirus deaths of any other country.
Cut the CDC budget in both 2018 and 2019.
Encouraged people to drink chloroquine to fight the coronavirus.
Encouraged people to inject disinfectants to fight the coronavirus.

- mostly sourced from Reddit posts

Most of these are misleading or just downright lies which you denounce trump for but you are doing the same exact thing...great work and pretty commonplace for your posts.

[XU_Lou]

Most of these are misleading or just downright lies which you denounce trump for but you are doing the same exact thing...great work and pretty commonplace for your posts.

He simply regurgitates whatever the mainstream media spews - which of course we all know, they always tell the truth....

Hey Xville - be careful - sounds like Tuesday in the Ville is going to be crazy. All kinds of facts and rumors of many groups coming to town to create total mayhem. I've been following this group to keep abreast of what's happening: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2027964934099596/

[paulxu]

Most of these are misleading or just downright lies which you denounce trump for but you are doing the same exact thing...great work and pretty commonplace for your posts.

Pick out a couple for me that are "downright lies." I'm curious.

[Muskie in dayton]

Pick out a couple for me that are "downright lies." I'm curious.

Well to start, while technically not lies, the first 14 are due to the virus..... err.... the media way over-sensationalizing the virus. In fact the polar opposite was true 6 months ago. When I see this kind of crap, and I hear Biden attribute this crap to Trump, I’m disgusted. Are people stupid enough to blame Trump for this??? Really??? I can’t stand Trump, but this crap makes me want to vote for him out of spite.

[paulxu]

You make a good point, but that's the age old argument: a president takes credit for the good things (I created the best....etc.) then he gets credit for the bad things. Especially the ones he is directly responsible for, and there are a lot on that list.

I'm inclined to go with these 70 former Republicans who served in a variety of capacities in National Security on which way to go this year:

https://www.defendingdemocracytogeth...onal-security/

They list 10 reasons that they think we should consider, and why those reasons compel them to support Biden. This is not the media over-stating anything.
The downside is, as one Republican noted, by doing this they help the country remove a danger to itself...but may write them out of a needed conversation on remaking the Republican party after Trump has gone.